Diminishing returns on food

[Acamus]

Will there always be? If so, you may as well implement stamina as "+5 every 15 minutes" and make it just like all of those other casual player games. All the game consists of is waiting for stamina. There is nothing else. As a tradeskiller, mining out just my plot alone took a half hour, not including any of the basements. 5 minutes of mining, 25 minutes of waiting. if I could have had fish to replenish my stamina like before, it would have taken just the 5 minutes. Can you imagine how long it would take to mine a sector?

Yeah, yeah.. spoiled by potions/food. Whatever. The point is that without a way to regen stamina, this game is the same as any other browser game where you play for 5 mins, and then wait 6 hours and then repeat. The waiting isn't quite as long but it doesn't make it any less boring.

[Pirate Wings]

thats what stam renewal is for

[Kaios]

Will there always be? If so, you may as well implement stamina as "+5 every 15 minutes" and make it just like all of those other casual player games. All the game consists of is waiting for stamina. There is nothing else. As a tradeskiller, mining out just my plot alone took a half hour, not including any of the basements. 5 minutes of mining, 25 minutes of waiting. if I could have had fish to replenish my stamina like before, it would have taken just the 5 minutes. Can you imagine how long it would take to mine a sector?

Yeah, yeah.. spoiled by potions/food. Whatever. The point is that without a way to regen stamina, this game is the same as any other browser game where you play for 5 mins, and then wait 6 hours and then repeat. The waiting isn't quite as long but it doesn't make it any less boring.

[The Muffin Man]

wolf i lost

[@@Admin Nash]

god damn you!!

[Rokhan]

tiger!

Couple things kid, 1) This isnt a browser game. 2) White Magic was made for a reason. 3) Im sure your exaggerating that to hell or you have 20 stamina max. Between potions, fish, and other food you should be able to DECENTLY restore your stamina. 4) This was MEANT to be a harder server though it is newbie friendly, get used to it. ALOT has changed for reasons.

[King Dravien]

25 mins waiting for stam, lol, You must have a wolfload of stamina to get back since it regains 6 every what, 5 seconds?

[Trivium]

20x20 = 400
400 stam x 5 = 2000 stam, + leway for fails = 2800 stam

It takes 5 seconds to restore 6 stam, therefore 1.2 stam is restored a second
So if 1.2 stam is restored a second, it would take (2800/1.2) = 2333 seconds to restore 2800 stamina

2333 seconds = 38.9 minutes

No exageration detected.
I've always found this problem annoying aswell.

[teckS]

Yeah, waiting for stam sucks, but I will have to give credit to White magic. It really helps to have if you are a tradesmith, and if you get it to over maybe... 125 - 150, your stam renewal spells are pretty much strong enough to keep you going without ever stopping. On that note tho, I like when they introduced "Stamina Conversion" which was the traders equivalent to Mana Conversion. It must have made things really unbalanced tho because it did not stick around for very long... O.o

Yeah, waiting for stam sucks, but I will have to give credit to White magic. It really helps to have if you are a tradesmith, and if you get it to over maybe... 125 - 150, your stam renewal spells are pretty much strong enough to keep you going without ever stopping. On that note tho, I like when they introduced "Stamina Conversion" which was the traders equivalent to Mana Conversion. It must have made things really unbalanced tho because it did not stick around for very long... O.o

[Rokhan]

And 2 paragraphed perfect restatement of the year goes to...

teckS!!111


Triv, I hate your math. Regardless, nerfing the food thing is good because look at fighters they could go ALL day just doing that. Its easier to make lots of fish  or just buy them then to get 8 points for white and another 6 for mana convo if your either bit smart. Like I said, its meant to be a harder server and these sorts of thing were done to incorporate that.

[teckS]

Lol myyyyyy bad on the double post. not even 100% sure how that happened... but on topic. yeha i think the food is alright. Waiting sucks.. but everyone has to. Those that don't have to wait, have trained white magic, or make/buy potions. So the choice is yours, train white magic, or wait between mining.

[Rokhan]

Indeed, the latter take white magic as your self sufficient.


Or sleep in a bed for a temporary restorative solution.

[Trivium]

Another way to solve this is to make an uber miner, mining/bs specd as usual but instead of getting carp and mason at first, train white magic and go for like... 50 wisdom/40 intel to start with.  In no time youll have conversion and be reviving for 10-15 with a copper wand, and it just gets better from there

[Mickey Kudlo]

I am happy with how things are. At first it was too extreme but the adjustments I made several weeks back softened it up but still makes it interesting.

Also, Food is about food gain. Stamina gain is just a nice side effect.

I think the 25 minute wait he is referring to is about the degrade effect going away. But a half hour to mine out your basement seems perfectly reasonable to me. This is a persistent, long term game after all

[Vex]

I am happy with how things are. At first it was too extreme but the adjustments I made several weeks back softened it up but still makes it interesting.

Also, Food is about food gain. Stamina gain is just a nice side effect.

I think the 25 minute wait he is referring to is about the degrade effect going away. But a half hour to mine out your basement seems perfectly reasonable to me. This is a persistent, long term game after all

Well tiger YOU you're not black.

In my white T

[Rokhan]

Well tiger YOU you're not black.

In my white T

<3 Vex


Mmm food...

[Mickey Kudlo]

Well tiger YOU you're not black.

In my white T

I must have missed something or I am getting old.

[Rokhan]

I must have missed something or I am getting old.

Your almost 40 arent you?

It's Vex he needs no excuse or reason for what he says as long as he swangs in his white tee.

[Vex]

What the hell? Shidamn I must be black or something. Thats some bo wolf. BO wolf SON

[Pirate Wings]

you clean your white T in a nasty way