Sword Improvement : Cut/Thrust/Bash Damage?

[Mickey Kudlo]

People been complaining that Sword has gotten left behind in worth so... since it is Cut/Thrust damage, why not add Bash to that?
Basically, you turn the flat side of the blade forward and you strike, kinda like a mace.

Sound ok to at least try?

[King Dravien]

People been complaining that Sword has gotten left behind in worth so... since it is Cut/Thrust damage, why not add Bash to that?
Basically, you turn the flat side of the blade forward and you strike, kinda like a mace.

Sound ok to at least try?

Like the old mailed fist? You could use hand on it to change the element?

[Lord Darkness]

The only prob with sword really is that its such low damage especially when at high levels, adding bash to it would prob fix that i guess, and also, swords were used mainly to smack at knights heads to try and knock them out through their armor.....God im sad that i can remember that

[Pokemon Steve]

Enlighten us an explain how the damage system works?
What are all factors.

[Rokhan]

Yeah, thatd be interesting to know.

[Kaios]

Wait, why would I want to kill a monster with the flat side of a sword when the edge is sharper?

[StormyNight]

It's a dumb idea. Just bump the damage of every sword by 2 points on the low end. Make ghoul blade cirpigvent armor again and drop it by 2 points on the high and the low end.

[The Muffin Man]

Wait, why would I want to kill a monster with the flat side of a sword when the edge is sharper?

That's exactly what I thought and then *facepalmed*

[King Dravien]

Wait, why would I want to kill a monster with the flat side of a sword when the edge is sharper?

Because.

Thats why.

[Rokhan]

It's a dumb idea. Just bump the damage of every sword by 2 points on the low end. Make ghoul blade cirpigvent armor again and drop it by 2 points on the high and the low end.

Yeah cause face it. Only noobs pick sword anymore

[Mickey Kudlo]

Wait, why would I want to kill a monster with the flat side of a sword when the edge is sharper?

Cuz some monsters resist CUT damage better than BASH... like skeletons. A blade can miss bones when you try to slice through but if you BASH them, you would hit bones more easily. Just one example.

I already made the change. Was easier than I thought. All swords do cut/thrust/bash damage. The system finds the weakest AL on the target and uses that for the armor roll. So if CutAl = 10, ThrustAl = 5, and BashAl = 0... it uses the BashAl. This really only appiles to monsters since player armor is all equalized, except maybe on elemental.

[King Dravien]

Cuz some monsters resist CUT damage better than BASH... like skeletons. A blade can miss bones when you try to slice through but if you BASH them, you would hit bones more easily. Just one example.

I already made the change. Was easier than I thought. All swords do cut/thrust/bash damage. The system finds the weakest AL on the target and uses that for the armor roll. So if CutAl = 10, ThrustAl = 5, and BashAl = 0... it uses the BashAl. This really only appiles to monsters since player armor is all equalized, except maybe on elemental.

Why didnt you make it like the old mailed fist?

Starts as CUT damage, you use your hand to make it BASH, then again for THRUST, Then its up to a player to work out which is best Vs a certain monster, but adding all the damage types and it auto-picks then its a little overpowered.

[Mickey Kudlo]

Why didnt you make it like the old mailed fist?

Starts as CUT damage, you use your hand to make it BASH, then again for THRUST, Then its up to a player to work out which is best Vs a certain monster, but adding all the damage types and it auto-picks then its a little overpowered.

The mailed fist is a "machine" with buttons to switch the elemental damage type so it doesn't really apply.

Each weapon type has some kinda advantage and I think this should be OK. We'll see.

[King Dravien]

The mailed fist is a "machine" with buttons to switch the elemental damage type so it doesn't really apply.

Each weapon type has some kinda advantage and I think this should be OK. We'll see.

Maybe make it so you use hand to change it from Cut/Thrust to bash?

[Grinch]

Eh it's probably not so bad because only newbies use sword anymore. Now unless someone decides to be a sword dude it's pretty easy picking for them, if the system will choose automatically.

[Rokhan]

Grinch stole my statement... Only noobs use sword. Like me when I first started, I used sword.

Sword blows compared to everything else.
Mace does stam damage
Axe destroys shields
Scythe has massive dmg and crit bonus
Dagger is fast as hell
Spear has range
UA is fast
Bow is mediocre with range and speed
Xbow is dominant range and high damage
Throwing is like medium speed, dmg and range
Magic is high damage.


Glad you changed it Mickey, maybe it will be more useful now but even so, a slight damage boost wouldnt hurt, min wise.  I.e

If irons word is 8-15. Make it 10-15 or something

[StevenTox]

Cut will spill blood and cut through things.
Bash will break and bruise.

I like to BREAK AND BRUISE INSIDE SO THERES NO BLOOD!!!

[chronolink]

Why not have slicing? Like it makes a deep cut causing DoT equiv damage

[King Dravien]

Grinch stole my statement... Only noobs use sword. Like me when I first started, I used sword.

Sword blows compared to everything else.
Mace does stam damage
Axe destroys shields
Scythe has massive dmg and crit bonus
Dagger is fast as hell
Spear has range
UA is fast
Bow is mediocre with range and speed
Xbow is dominant range and high damage
Throwing is like medium speed, dmg and range
Magic is high damage.


Glad you changed it Mickey, maybe it will be more useful now but even so, a slight damage boost wouldnt hurt, min wise.  I.e

If irons word is 8-15. Make it 10-15 or something

I see no staff on this list!!

You can GTFO!!!!

[Rokhan]

I see no staff on this list!!

You can GTFO!!!!

I knew I forgot something.

Staff has AL.

Happy?