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I understand your frustration. Here's my thoughts.

Macro's = ok

Bots = not ok

Simple macro's like a mouse button to simulate holding down F12 or to have a spell on your mouse is simply no problem. However, i don't think doing this endlessly AFK is ok. But if i wanna go make a sammich while my guy grinds up 4000 cut petals, I shouldn't be penalized for managing my time efficiently.

Now if your botting or doing long term AFK macro's that's where I agree it shouldn't be aloud.

Either way, not like many people are playing the current V3 server Dredge unfortunately. Was about 10-15 active but it seems the botter ran people away and we have about 5-7 active =/ So whats the diff if anyone bots or afk's?

It's always been difficult and a touchy subject in RPGWO and I think it will continue to be.

I feel you dude. I just haven't been informed specifically how he is planning on changing magic (so who knows if it would be possible now or not). Do you know how they are being changed? I don't think magic.ini is going completely away (need some way to code new spells). I'm guessing he will change it more like how he changed skills. I haven't seen what the V3 server files look like but i was told Skills can now be changed how you want per server instead of them being hard coded. So this makes me believe that skills were changed to an .ini format to be editable. (This is what broke magic casting monsters in the beginning of Upira.) I totally agree, if the system is changing don't waste any time on it now. BUT, I'm a mage on Upira and I found some damon that I can't use. Adding in my first idea wouldn't take too much effort to give it meaning for a mage in the current build.

However, I guess what I really meant is that I hope he doesn't leave this for one of the last things he does. Mages may be strong but they have always has certain disadvantages so seeing how he is developing right now, i'd like to get some serious thought into the subject than it just pop up and worked on last minute. Get an idea of how it will be changed to see what even will be possible. I really like the thought of Dynamic spells. Even changing all spells to Dynamic makes sense IRL. This would make the whole casting system need a revamp though I think.

So i'm pretty sure you have an idea for what you are going to do for Damon on the wand/orb side on Upira (since they aren't in yet). But since the Artifact Orb is already in the game and it's dynamic just like damon weapons. It doesn't make sense to add another dynamic wand. And the fact that all damon weapons are wands as well, means mages need something a lil extra too.

My idea's (2) are a Damon Rune. Now this can be an unbreakable rune or need to be recharged like a wand with mana stone. It shouldn't completely break though because of rarity of Damon. Now my first idea is to have this rune be the lvl 5 rune for lvl 5 attack spells and/or lvl 5 boosts. Even make it for lvl 3 stamina to mana where you get positive mana to stamina trade off and also do higher +'s to armor. Now the only downfall to this idea in theory up front is that you need to have high enough black/white/whatever magic to cast lvl 5 spells and since the damon weapons are only 100 skill to arm that's not very fair. One way this could be fixed is by allowing those spells to be used with much lower magic lvl than what it should if it was scaled accordingly because damon is so rare. However, this would allow a very low lvl mage to become very powerful early on if you were to find damon early or remake. So then next resolution leads to my next idea, which i think would only benefit black mages (unless ideas merged).

Make a spell or spells that require the damon rune and make the spell dynamic in damage. So I can learn "Meteor Strike Other" and it isn't scaled I, II, III, IV. But rather the damage is scaled dynamically like weapons are within the spell itself depending on players black magic level.

You could even mix the two idea's to make it beneficial still to be able to use say the damon rune to cast lvl 5 spells or stam to mana III etc. if you have the cast spell required or cast the dynamic spell. You could even make multiple runes, however i think Damon is rare enough to be able to do this with 1 rune. If anything, 1 rune per magic but that may be a bit much and you can go around it by resmithing the rune if need be. You could also merge the two ideas to make dynamic boost spells, amor plus's, renewals etc. too (which would probably only benefit at a higher skill level depending on scaling).

*Bonus spell idea: Mega or Ultima Renewal. Cast's all three or two renewals at once (casting them all separate is just adding extra time). Or even better, "Dynamic Renewal Aura Self" - Creates renewals with dynamic renewal quantity but with a TIMER like boosts rather than fuel amount. Catch, only 1 Aura on at a time? So you gotta choose then have normal renewals for the rest? Or have option for the ultima and cast all 3 but for a much higher skill requirement?

Thoughts?

Definitely looking to join in once the new world is opened. Might be nice if there was a way to notify additional players that it's opened, some kind of forum announcement? It's kind of a big deal.

I made a post in the FB group about two days ago letting people know. I also made a discord for the V3 server.

https://discord.gg/vCzt3A3

I like the idea of enchantments/bonuses(think I posted about something similar once but no clue where), but I'm not sure spells are really the right way to do it.  I like the idea of different weapons/armors being able to have different effects, I like the idea that they could even add new levels to pvp(even though it is something I don't do often I do enjoy it on some servers against a way ob opponent since I'm usually a crafter), but I'd prefer not having spells cast from weapons/armor. 

just for example, what if instead the bonuses were things like:
for weapons:
-armor penetration(1-5): certain percentage of the damage ignores opponents armor
-double striking(1-10): chance of landing 2 hits instead of 1
-range(1): increases attack range.  +1 for melee, +3 for magic, +5 for missle
-speed(1-10): improves weapon speed making attacks faster
-acid/rot/decay(1-10): critical hits have a chance to destroy armor/poison target¹

for armors:
-deflection(1-5): chance to completely shrug off damage when taking a hit
-reflection(1-5): sends small amount of damage taken back to attacker
-stealth(1): player goes into stealth mode while worn even if they don't have the skill
-observer(1-5): ignored by monsters unless you attack them first²
-hypnosis(1-10): chance nearby monsters attack what you're attacking unless you attack them

chance/damage/effect would increase maybe 5% per level
1:should be a really low chance on armor breaking, maybe start this 1 at 3% and increase 2% per level?  also broken items should be repairable not completely removed from game, and poison should only happen if attacking unarmored targets
2:based on level of player in relation to level of monster, level 1 would be monsters up to half the player's level while level 3 would be monsters same level as player and level 5 would be double...not sure if this should stack if you have multiple pieces with observer though

I think your on the right track with this. Maybe spells isn't the way to go, but more or less enchanted items from drops only.

Quote from: Jaster_reylu on July 06, 2017, 06:24:12 pm

while all ur idea sound neat n stuff they dont seem practical?

how do u give this effect to a mage?

why does it have to be something for a mage?  they're enchantments, not spells.  the ideas before were all about spells even though the thread was for enchantments and bonuses. 

as far as the stealth thing, no clue!  I was just tossing out a few examples of possible enchantments, I wasn't really saying these are the things that have to be there...

Because from experience of being a mage on most servers I've played, they never get anything special for them really. Armor, for instance, is always limited to something very light like a chain, or if the server has it - drake armor. Which using drake armor on every single server gets old. Once you can kill and get crystal scales, your hunt is over indefinitely for armor. I know he has made some major changes on armor with V3, but having specifically like mage cloth or spell casting monsters drop armors that mages can wear. Either takes a magic to arm, or is just tailored more for them. Low to no AL but higher Magic AL elec/fire/cold etc, and have "effects" on them. Like constant Mana Renewal or something to that effect.

But i think Jasters point was, that not many of those effects would really benefit a mage since they are ranged. Now that Melee & missle D are the same skill, i can see myself going w/ a defense mage - still tbd depending on how things change though. This idea would take a lot of balancing for all 3 build classes (melee, ranged or magic ranged).

We're on the right track though to give the game an extra bonus to always keep you looking out for better items after you hit lvl 30

side note, since u increased view size if u shift view and click to move, it seems to move u 4 spaces off...sorta seems like ur clickin based off the old screen size somehow..

Yea i noticed this yesterday. If you click the right arrow to view 19 spaces to your right, but right click the 1 space to the left of you, it moves you about 3 or 4 spaces to the right instead of one space to the left.

Yea that's my general idea, but that is making everything set to be the same when you make it no matter what. I'm talking about having any armor have a random enchantment on it when dropped from monster. So Iron Chest doesn't always have only Mana Denial I, it could land with Revive Self I or whatever other spell. Or it could have new enchantment types, like i said above, "smite" which gives additional dmg to undead monsters. Identify Undead Monsters in monster.ini "monstertype=undead"