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After hearing about what all V4 will have, I got the idea to set all the skills as freeskill. Unfortunately, at character creation, this does run into the problem where it spams that you have to many skills, but holding enter fastforwards past it. In exchange for having all the skills, you start with almost none of the items, and only get 16 or 20 points to specialize in the skills of your choice.

Since everybody will be able to locksmith, stealing is enabled, so players will have to lock their stuff up tight. Those who don't want to focus on training it to stay safe can team up with somebody who does, or find a place to hide their stuff.

In order to let the players get stuff, I plan on having them start with four(?) 'item vouchers' which they can give to NPCs in the starting area, each one will accept it in exchange for a particular item or two (or three, in the event of the Cooking profession); however, I do not know how to do this. I will need other people to assist with this!

The server, at the start, will be four sectors big.  That should be MORE than enough land for players to use, unless the server somehow inspires a ton of players to participate.

On friendly AI's:

• Will we have guards, or perhaps 'adventurers' roaming around, helping the random wandering player?
• Will we have NPC farmers who actually work to prepare stuff?
• NPCs who deliver goods from one town to another?

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On Hostile AI (Monsters):

Quote from: Tokoshoran on May 17, 2012, 10:23:54 pm

Maybe you could have a location of magical research, but under normal cirpigstances it would lure monsters from so far away (Could pop out of the ground as some egg thing, created from stray magic, and grow into monsters). Building walls, extra layers, higher floors, etc would lessen these effects.

this does bring the thought that there may be flying monsters. in such a case, would flying monsters be able to, themselves, go up and down layers? I can picture a harpy seeing you through a window, going up to your roof, and heading down the stairs to get at you (Assuming monsters can be programed to be that smart).

If flight will allow the movement of layers from anywhere, it should only work if there's no floor in the way (the floor at your current level if you're going down, or the above level if you're going up). This would add an incentive to just put a doorway in the way of your rooftop staircase, so that if they do attempt to do so, they can't get through that door.

holy crap monsters flying over walls would suck ass.  think about it, you're a farmer/alchemist(no combat skills), you have walls to keep the monsters out since you live a peaceful life.  so 1 day you're minding your own business harvesting your plants so you can go brew potions, when all of a sudden a dragon swoops in over your wall and eats you...powerful monster 1 hit to kill you I consider that being eaten!

I don't think we need flying monsters.  for all the extra programming it would take, it just doesn't really add anything fun to the game...just another way to kill crafters.  do we really need another way to kill crafters?

Alright, fair enough... Maybe flying monsters can't approach the ground layer. Or just not be able to change the layer so simply.

But really, if a dragon's going to come by anyways, wouldn't it be able to just demolish your building? Why would a dragon suddenly even swoop over your place? Monsters wouldn't be lured by a player or their tames. You'd have to have something that actually emits something they follow, such as monster bait.

its just the way things have always been, if monsters spawn near your land they try to attack you.  with Mickey's new system that would be monster's drifting toward your land I guess...

if you have good walls they can't get to you.  if you have windows/slits they can get you with range attack.  if you have no walls at all(as a pure crafter) you're dead. 

so a dragon drifting near your walls(if able to fly) would fly right over and eat you.  if it wasn't able to fly it would be stuck outside trying to attack you.  if you had windows and dragons had a range/magic attack(dragons breath?  range of 2?) it would be able to attack you if you got too close...

I'll admit the idea of monsters being able to break down walls sounds interesting(and maybe should be discussed), but if they can, how do we stay safe?  would monsters have a certain amount of damage they're able to do, would different types of walls have different damage thresholds?  ie: weaker monsters can't break anything, medium monsters can break through fences, strong monsters can break through wooden walls, but only the most elite monsters can get through stone walls?  if those seriously bad assed monsters can still get through stone walls, and the people hiding behind those walls are hiding so they don't have to(read that as can't) fight, doesn't that mean traders are basicly tigered?

• Can we lure monsters by bait?
  
  •    Monsters would not want to roam towards you if you are not using bait
• Will there be monsters who can do special things?
  
  • Digging
  • Flying
  • "Jumping" multiple tiles(Teleport, or where they can walk only?)
• Can Hostile AI break barriers?
  
  • Strength of the barriers
• Will building a home prevent auto-spawns near it?
• Can windows be made to NOT allow ranged attacks?
  
  • Slits/Holes vs actual Windows

Again, because there seemed to be confusion: The MAJOR roams would NOT approach a simple player unless there was bait near the player. Garbage or enchanted items might count as bait, giving reason to store them in a CLOSED container, or throw the garbage away. Minor roams could be attracted to simpler things, but unable to break through the walls.[/list][/list][/list][/list]

I've seen a lot of complaints about magic as I look around the forums or play the game, especially on the subject of Blue Magic.

Now, I don't know if people are just whining because, hey, people whine, or if there's a legitimate reason to this, but there have been complaints that the golems are too powerful. If they really are overly easy to make, maybe they can be made more difficult? Having to construct the body before making it alive sounds very reasonable. Maybe even having to start with a mud golem, level it up, and then upgrade it with copper (I believe that's the next stage), rinse and repeat for higher metals. Or perhaps player made golems always start at level 1, so that they have to be carried through to their usefulness.

White magic is fairly powerful as it is, I don't see much need to change it. Same with Black Magic.

Red magic is a bit confusing to me. It improves the player's attributes and skills, right? I think this could use some ties into alchemy. If you were to cast some spells onto the potions made, you could make them even stronger (Minor+ and Major+). If it could make charges to give the effect to other players at a later time, even, that would be useful. I understand this can cause some debate as to whether to use alchemy or red magic, but sometimes I just want both, despite no red mages being on.

Finally, we seem to be lacking in any area based magic. I brought it up in suggestions that we could have "Yellow Magic" which would be cast upon an area. It's a bit difficult to imagine how to mix this in, since it would cover the same things as the other skills, but since we're already starting with all the skills it wouldn't be so difficult. Yellow magic would simply allow the player to use multiple (nine?) runes at once to cast upon a whole area instead of one square. It could even be made less cost effective by increasing the cost-per-square (ten?), so that there's less incentive to use it outside of emergencies.

• Are golems tough to make?
• If not, make them tough
• Red Magic vs Alchemy
• Red Magic helping Alchemy
• Red Magic produces "Charges"
• "Yellow" area based magic tying into the other classes

I swear if this list is still broken after I hit post I'm going to be so mad.

EDIT: Fixed by Mickey

According to the help page /tameuse is only supposed to command the tames that are actively following you, but it forces ALL of the tames to use the object--even traders on guard!

I was doing some talking over Rebirth about the modern servers that used(?) to exist, and I got an idea.

People don't like starting with "Nothing" and right off the bat getting a bunch of high powered guns and junk, right? I certainly find the idea silly. But getting modern stuff later on, after doing a ton of stuff, would make sense.

This does bring into question stuff like guns vs bows, swords, and axes, but that's solved as follows: The modern (and future, if it goes that far) equipment wouldn't have its own skill! Instead, guns would be high leveled ranged weapons, grenades high level thrown weapons, etc.

Then, for machinery, in order to make the metals and stuff used in modern stuff, you would have to process them through higher-end medieval stuff.

Now, I understand, "High level people would have an unfair advantage over new people." Yes, that would exist, and although it already exists on pure medieval servers, it would also drive them to work for themselves, rather than to help the newbies, but for some people, it would be worth it.

Another problem I'm finding is that I, personally, can't think of what the modern equivelant of all the weapon types would be.

If you've got any suggestions to add on, or criticism to throw at this, go for it.