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Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: StormyNight on September 17, 2005, 02:53:27 am
Read on youngins.

http://www.stormynight.net/rpgwo/faq/roughoutline.txt (http://www.stormynight.net/rpgwo/faq/roughoutline.txt)

Special thanks to Teh Daegan
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Daegan on September 17, 2005, 02:55:26 am
Discuss these ideas experessed here, Daegan would love to see opinions on this 'mod' for rpgwo XD
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Grinch on September 17, 2005, 10:52:27 am
That would be amazing.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Mystic on September 17, 2005, 12:00:50 pm
I hate full PK servers, I  can see PK events, but 24/7....
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: StormyNight on September 17, 2005, 12:01:49 pm
Well "No Mans Land" would be forced pk, the rest wouldn't be forced, but the factions would ALWAYS be at war.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: chronolink on September 17, 2005, 02:16:15 pm
Pretty good that a mere mortal (Daegan) suggested that. Some elements of WoW are in there thats pretty cool. I say GIVE IT THE GO-AHEAD NOW
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Daegan on September 17, 2005, 04:01:48 pm
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Pretty good that a mere mortal (Daegan) suggested that. Some elements of WoW are in there thats pretty cool. I say GIVE IT THE GO-AHEAD NOW
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yea i took alot from WoW, like main factions and wolf. notice i refered to it was a rpgwo mod?
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: chronolink on September 18, 2005, 12:09:13 am
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yea i took alot from WoW, like main factions and wolf. notice i refered to it was a rpgwo mod?
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I would SO like to lead the Newbanite faction
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Daegan on September 18, 2005, 01:41:53 am
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I would SO like to lead the Newbanite faction
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Grinch has dibs methinks.. maybe you can be the Newbanite warlord though!

or you can be The Old Coalitions champion if you work your arse off and earn the title..

think about it, FOUR land plots that YOU own.

One day you'll understand the significance of owning land XD
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Mystic on September 18, 2005, 02:49:15 pm
I still like my idea of a mix between RPGWO and FFXI for a server >.>
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: chronolink on September 18, 2005, 03:47:07 pm
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Grinch has dibs methinks.. maybe you can be the Newbanite warlord though!

or you can be The Old Coalitions champion if you work your arse off and earn the title..

think about it, FOUR land plots that YOU own.

One day you'll understand the significance of owning land XD
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Ok, remember the motto: Once A Coalitionist ALWAYS A Coalitionist. Hard work to work for old Coalition sounds good, but any slackness I'd lead the Newbanites to victory anyday.

On a further note, are you both going to add a more in-depth story to it? As in revising the current one? Other servers have like NO story to it, just a grind-fest with a few events
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: StormyNight on September 18, 2005, 03:59:02 pm
The newbanites aren't a faction xD
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Daegan on September 18, 2005, 10:35:47 pm
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The newbanites aren't a faction xD
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Sure they are.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Gimpy on September 19, 2005, 08:32:04 pm
ya what ever just get the server up fr00t







Steeltide
 level 49 flail retired
 lvl 40 flail retired
New Steeltide
 level 43 flail  *active*
 level 40 bower retired
 level 36 bower retired
 phobos
 lvl 43 bower *active*


     I MAY NOT HAVE SPENT ALOT OF TIME IN NAMELESS BUT i was still in it ~gimpy~ :smile:
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Daegan on September 19, 2005, 08:42:27 pm
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ya what ever just get the server up fr00t
Steeltide
 level 49 flail retired
 lvl 40 flail retired
New Steeltide
 level 43 flail  *active*
 level 40 bower retired
 level 36 bower retired
 phobos
 lvl 43 bower *active*
     I MAY NOT HAVE SPENT ALOT OF TIME IN NAMELESS BUT i was still in it ~gimpy~ :smile:
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also got kicked, killt, then rejoined for treason O.o
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Pirate Wings on September 20, 2005, 05:40:40 am
These sound like pretty good ideas. Every time I come up with an idea and tell someone they go and do it and claim it was so and so's idea  SOMEONE who shall remain nameless has done this on many occasions. (no one thats posted here)

So anyways to the point of the topic, it would be interesting seeing a server like this or some of this stuff implemented to already existing servers. The factions idea certanly has gotten my attention and if implimented correctly it would add an interesting factor to the game.

Many thanks for reading.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: @@@Admin Shan on September 20, 2005, 07:14:30 am
Me and Tarch had a similer idea to this....actually very similer i believe we still have the .txt for the idea lol anyway we went to UT with it and he talked to Mick and mick thought it was a good idea but at the time he didnt want any more servers out there. So maby this idea will float his boat. Anyway I like it and good luck.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: StormyNight on September 20, 2005, 02:05:20 pm
Holy hell, did Wings just said The Coalition had a good idea?!!??!
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Daegan on September 20, 2005, 03:58:06 pm
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These sound like pretty good ideas. Every time I come up with an idea and tell someone they go and do it and claim it was so and so's idea  SOMEONE who shall remain nameless has done this on many occasions. (no one thats posted here)

So anyways to the point of the topic, it would be interesting seeing a server like this or some of this stuff implemented to already existing servers. The factions idea certanly has gotten my attention and if implimented correctly it would add an interesting factor to the game.

Many thanks for reading.
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these ideas were brainstormed in a msn conversation between stormy kenshin and i.  Some other partial ideas were borrowed from WoW.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Pirate Wings on September 21, 2005, 09:05:22 am
On the subject of new ideas for the game might as well make a list of some more.

New ideas for the game

Farming/plants
All plants should spawn on their own accord. You must ensure plants/trees have a water source or they will not spawn. I originaly was thinking they will die but it will be hard to get water to all plants so you can still do it the old way and they will go through the usual growing phase. I was thinking it is possible to completely farm out a species of plants but in a pre determined area of the world each plant in a different location of course one will always be available to avoid them being extinct. Weeds maybe could sprout up and be cut down with a farmers scyth and somehow used as fertaliser to help your plants grow faster. Compost bins may be made with carpentry and 4 bits of board with hammer and nails.

Mining
The rarity of ores should be greatly reduced and you should only be able to mine them once. Once they are gone you have to mine elsewhere to find them. The mining map should be auto reset every week and ore spots randomised so next time the map resets it will show a different ore in the same spot. The elevation of the land above the spot you are mining should be reduced by 1.

Guild
Guild leaders have the power to purchase 4 pieces of land as ther guild hq or "base". Each member of a guild can buy 1 piece of guild land at the cost of 10k so one can make guild towns.

Animals
A male and female of the species will be required for an offspring. The animals need a source of food/water and warmth in the winter to reproduce successfuly. Originaly I was thinking that animals can become extinct but if it gets to the stage where there are for example no cows left there will be auto spawn spots of 1 male and 1 female in pre determined spots in farms around the world. Maybe some wild monsters could re populate in this manner but of course re spawning in their corresponding lairs as opposed to farms.

Weather
Flood/droughts will offer a new experience for farming and floods may have the power to change the shape and elevation of the landscape, reducing towns to ruins while drought lands may cause plants to die or not grow at all. I am thinking that plot land may auto recover after a day or 2 when in ruins or a player may use the /fixwall command to rebuild on plot land. Claimed land will most probly wipe your land perhaps.

Towns
There should be one centralised town and all other towns be totally player made. An admin may be required to convert it to plot land and add appropriate npc's. I always thought it was nice to let the players decide what kind of world they wanna live in. A general rule to avoid over crowding would be maybe 1 town per sector.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Daegan on September 21, 2005, 12:45:58 pm
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On the subject of new ideas for the game might as well make a list of some more.

New ideas for the game

Farming/plants
All plants should spawn on their own accord. You must ensure plants/trees have a water source or they will not spawn. I originaly was thinking they will die but it will be hard to get water to all plants so you can still do it the old way and they will go through the usual growing phase. I was thinking it is possible to completely farm out a species of plants but in a pre determined area of the world each plant in a different location of course one will always be available to avoid them being extinct. Weeds maybe could sprout up and be cut down with a farmers scyth and somehow used as fertaliser to help your plants grow faster. Compost bins may be made with carpentry and 4 bits of board with hammer and nails.

Mining
The rarity of ores should be greatly reduced and you should only be able to mine them once. Once they are gone you have to mine elsewhere to find them. The mining map should be auto reset every week and ore spots randomised so next time the map resets it will show a different ore in the same spot. The elevation of the land above the spot you are mining should be reduced by 1.

Guild
Guild leaders have the power to purchase 4 pieces of land as ther guild hq or "base". Each member of a guild can buy 1 piece of guild land at the cost of 10k so one can make guild towns.

Animals
A male and female of the species will be required for an offspring. The animals need a source of food/water and warmth in the winter to reproduce successfuly. Originaly I was thinking that animals can become extinct but if it gets to the stage where there are for example no cows left there will be auto spawn spots of 1 male and 1 female in pre determined spots in farms around the world. Maybe some wild monsters could re populate in this manner but of course re spawning in their corresponding lairs as opposed to farms.

Weather
Flood/droughts will offer a new experience for farming and floods may have the power to change the shape and elevation of the landscape, reducing towns to ruins while drought lands may cause plants to die or not grow at all. I am thinking that plot land may auto recover after a day or 2 when in ruins or a player may use the /fixwall command to rebuild on plot land. Claimed land will most probly wipe your land perhaps.

Towns
There should be one centralised town and all other towns be totally player made. An admin may be required to convert it to plot land and add appropriate npc's. I always thought it was nice to let the players decide what kind of world they wanna live in. A general rule to avoid over crowding would be maybe 1 town per sector.
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A few things.

On behalf of the farming things, it would not work with this server plan as per the large scale wars, camping resources would become a problem.

You can no longer smelt gold into coins, and jewelry making is removed, therefore the rarity of ores doesnt really matter much

Guilds (factions) will have SECTORS owned by the King (Guild Master) and in reality due to the steep cost to create your own faction (may have some other restrictions placed on them, land wars anyone?) but owning player guilds wouldnt be much of a reality so this idea is null and void.

As the current way the game handles spawning male/female animals would just be more for eye candy then anything, the game code doesnt support monsters seksing each other as far as I'm aware.

As for weather, due to the way we plan to lay out the world map (provided this idea would be accepted of course) it would do more harm then good, and there would be plenty of PvP events as it is.  The farming thing as stated above would likely fail so this wouldnt help much there.

Bottom Line -
These ideas have no place in an event-PvP Driven server and due to the plans on fixing the economy and over buffed players the ideas expressed wouldnt have much of a point.

edit:
Thanks for the ideas but we've taken measures to prevent some of the problems (over mining for uber profit) but if you have ideas for THIS server suggestion feel free to suggest away, anyone that reads this can suggest for it, as this project is planned on being

PvP-Event Driven Server
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Rokhan on September 22, 2005, 06:54:30 pm
well daegan, good idea for new server. i'd play it. i have a good idea, make mods like warlords, so there;s as many mods as there are warlord. it's be cool
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Daegan on September 22, 2005, 09:34:31 pm
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well daegan, good idea for new server. i'd play it. i have a good idea, make mods like warlords, so there;s as many mods as there are warlord. it's be cool
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there will be 2-3 warlords.

there wont be mods.

nuff said
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: StormyNight on September 23, 2005, 05:03:55 am
Mods are teh worst idea EVAR
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Daegan on September 23, 2005, 03:39:15 pm
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Mods are teh worst idea EVAR
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giving people mod makes them actually think the @@@ cares about them. in steeltide most think its 'the first step to getting admin' when its more of a community service
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Jordan on September 23, 2005, 04:20:25 pm
Great ideas but impossible with the state that rpgwo is in right now.  Corruption would be insane on that server and we are missing the best admins rpgwo have ever seen (ghost, rha, and ut).  Impossible.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Daegan on September 23, 2005, 04:34:19 pm
Ghost and Rha were pieces of wolf for admins.

and corruption wouldnt be insane because if things got out of hand with the state of the warlords/other factors the @@@ would wtfpwn them.

ONly tested and true people would end up with admin as well.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Jordan on September 23, 2005, 04:41:40 pm
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and corruption wouldnt be insane because if things got out of hand with the state of the warlords/other factors the @@@ would wtfpwn them.

I wish that were true about the other servers.... *cough* phobos *cough
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: chronolink on September 24, 2005, 02:19:36 pm
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Ghost and Rha were pieces of wolf for admins.
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Were? You sure they still aren`t? Some Phobos mods are like: OMG OMG MODSHIP LOOK AT ME LETS MUZZLE WHOEVER BACKCHATS ME WHILE I MOUTH OFF.... but the others are cool.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: StormyNight on September 24, 2005, 02:59:57 pm
As I said, mods are the worst idea evar.

The admin team would be selected by maturity, experiance, time they are online, and creativity.

This server is pretty much going to be based on the honor system, and you need good, trustworthy admins.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Pirate Wings on September 24, 2005, 05:31:25 pm
Rha and Ghost were ok when i had no problems with them but the second i did it's a whole different story. Well she said the past can be the past but she doesn't want a future whatever thats meant to mean but i'm respecting that. Oh wait that has nothing to do with this topic oops.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: chronolink on September 24, 2005, 06:04:27 pm
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Rha and Ghost were ok when i had no problems with them but the second i did it's a whole different story. Well she said the past can be the past but she doesn't want a future whatever thats meant to mean but i'm respecting that. Oh wait that has nothing to do with this topic oops.
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analyzing those words makes the words a contradiction. It`s a girl thing, I`m sure a lot of people kno this.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Rokhan on September 24, 2005, 06:28:42 pm
here's this, rha i hate, ghost is ok, and ut well, he's uniquely tigered. the admins over this new server should be players that arent cpmplete and utter monkeys/ass's/pussies. get some veterans not players who are decent and got lvl 40 with choob defences.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Daegan on September 25, 2005, 08:00:00 am
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here's this, rha i hate, ghost is ok, and ut well, he's uniquely tigered. the admins over this new server should be players that arent cpmplete and utter monkeys/ass's/pussies. get some veterans not players who are decent and got lvl 40 with choob defences.
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Guess me stormy and a few others are out then, eh?
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: StormyNight on September 25, 2005, 08:11:01 am
Your going off topic. lawlz
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: King Prince01 on September 27, 2005, 10:24:10 am
Seems like a cool idea. Pitch it to Mickey and gage his response. If you do get it I will help you how ever possible. Edward-phobos
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Daegan on September 27, 2005, 05:42:18 pm
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Seems like a cool idea. Pitch it to Mickey and gage his response. If you do get it I will help you how ever possible. Edward-phobos
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help is not necessary.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: @@@Admin Shan on September 28, 2005, 07:01:45 am
*watches the little stick man burn over and over and over again*
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Grinch on September 28, 2005, 07:32:36 am
I love the stick man xP
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: chronolink on September 28, 2005, 12:33:57 pm
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Seems like a cool idea. Pitch it to Mickey and gage his response. If you do get it I will help you how ever possible. Edward-phobos
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WTF? MY NAME is Edward (RL obviously) so...... thou shalt not use thy name in vein kthx
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Daegan on September 28, 2005, 03:44:42 pm
we all love the burning man.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Rokhan on October 01, 2005, 06:36:48 pm
deagan i didn't say u guys were out. veterans make the best admins, stormy has experience cuz he admin in liberty days, ur just nuts, cheoon woud be good just cuz. lol so yeah good choices. just get like old coalition vets
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: StormyNight on October 02, 2005, 12:13:10 am
I have completed coding Vertigo, and the admins are pretty much selected. Even though I doubt this will go on a public server, though there is a chance, this server was a lot of fun to create. Looks amazing actually. I'd love to see it in action.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: THEAC on October 02, 2005, 03:51:55 pm
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I have completed coding Vertigo, and the admins are pretty much selected. Even though I doubt this will go on a public server, though there is a chance, this server was a lot of fun to create. Looks amazing actually. I'd love to see it in action.
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Wow!!!  You and Daegan have come up with a great server idea! Please try hard to make it public!

Yeah Deagan, as much as I dislike for dissing my wiki, you know mmorpgs well.

{AC gives (best idea) trophy to StormyNight and Daegan}
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: StormyNight on October 02, 2005, 04:11:45 pm
Heh your words are appricated. Suggestions and ideas are always welcomed
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Rokhan on October 06, 2005, 06:42:51 pm
go stormy and daegan and anyone. woot. Vertigo sounds a cool name. I'd play it, Mickey better let u host thingy it or his ass is gas and i'm the flamethrower trust me... i'm a pyro
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: j roc on December 13, 2005, 12:17:16 pm
So will this server be playable anytime soon?
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Axeman on December 13, 2005, 03:12:42 pm
This is months old topic, including months old idea.  Now, if Mickey, Rha, or UT e-mailed Stormy and looked for a server-filler, I'm *sure* he would accept to do it, but it just won't happen.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: j roc on December 13, 2005, 06:58:12 pm
Damn, yeah I should have looked at the dates... Sorry I've been out of RPG World for months and months and just came across the forums...

Are these the most used forums in RPG World?
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Axeman on December 14, 2005, 03:33:10 pm
Pretty much, the RPGWO website ones aren't used, except by the 'newbs'.  This is basically the veterans forum to discuss how to deal with and chat with new problems in RPGWO.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Grinch on December 14, 2005, 05:16:17 pm
There used to be old ones.. they were popular.. hosted by Someguy..

Then he went poof and Rha was a cat and closed them down..

So I was like screw that.. I know so much and more about Invision anyway..

So I went.. registered the domain, got to work.. soon enough we had our own forums.. without Rha putting everyone on moderated xP
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Pokemon Steve on December 14, 2005, 07:21:15 pm
Waste of time making forums for a waste of time (rpgwo)?
We'll see, Nulona is the final test.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Grinch on December 14, 2005, 07:22:42 pm
I just made it to keep bashin - er.. chat - about Nulona in their own section.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Daegan on December 15, 2005, 09:03:46 pm
ya gtfo my leet idea post with crap about nulona

heres my two cents none the less:

I had a hand in the first test of the [pay to play] world version, i had to go to the dr about knee surgery and stormys site got tigered by a virus so i wasnt contactable for a few days.

then i got fired.

bottom line:
Rha picks wolf heads and doesnt care about why someone just disapeared for a few days.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Mark on January 06, 2006, 05:50:39 pm
these ideas do you no good, no one listens because on one here has the power to do the things we want, they do what they want!
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Kyle on January 06, 2006, 08:16:44 pm
They sound pretty good to me
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Axeman on January 06, 2006, 09:39:53 pm
Kyle, may I ask do you have anything better to do then post on these forums?  I'm not sure which is worse; you spamming these forums, or the fact I'm competiting against you over it.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Kyle on January 07, 2006, 05:33:42 pm
Yea, I know, it's such a predicament isn't it Axe.
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: scidhuv on January 07, 2006, 05:36:58 pm
yes
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Kyle on January 07, 2006, 06:17:36 pm
lol, scid's just spamming now too
Title: ANOTHER Server Idea
Post by: Mark on January 07, 2006, 07:50:23 pm
spammers!