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Title: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Kaios on March 10, 2011, 02:23:32 am
Some of you may remember me posting awhile ago about a game called The Chipped Dagger. Well, that game went no where and is probably about to die, so now I bring you: Haven & Hearth!

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Haven & Hearth is a MMORPG (Massive Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game) set in a fictional world loosely inspired by Slavic and Germanic myth and legend. The game sets itself apart from other games in the genre in its aim to provide players with an interactive, affectable and mutable game world, which can be permanently and fundamentally changed and affected through actions undertaken by the players. Our fundamental goal with Haven & Hearth is to create a game in which player choices have permanent and/or lasting effects and, thus, providing said players with a meaningful and fun gaming experience.

Players start the game surrounded by a vast and somewhat unforgiving wilderness, with only the most basic tools of survival at their disposal. The use of fire is a thematic focal point of the game's mythos, and an early and important task will be the simple lighting of one. As the first hearth fires disperse the darkness of the surrounding wilderness, more pressing questions will present themselves to the players: Who are they? Where are they? And, most importantly, where are they going? From this point on, players will have to blaze trails of their own into the unknown, the wilderness and the future, and explore and affect the world of Haven & Hearth using only their own best judgment and a chipped stone axe. Trust us, the stone axe is the wolf.

As players progress, they will be able to acquire new skills and abilities, allowing them to perform a variety of tasks—such as the claiming of land, the construction of buildings and the cultivation of crops—each step forward making the basic task of survival somewhat easier. Having progressed far enough, players will, in time, be able to organize themselves into societies, from simple tribes and villages, progressing through republics, nation states and, ultimately, empires.

At least, those are our lofty ambitions.

// The Seatribe team

There's about 500-1000 players online daily. I've played this game since around July of last year and have thoroughly enjoyed it since then. There was a world wipe at the beginning of the year so the new world (4th World since the game started) has been up since January 11th.

The game however is not for the faint hearted as it utilizes a permanent death system and at some points can become very "grindy." Although you can play it with a busy schedule, I wouldn't recommend going in to it with the hope that you will do well if that is the case. The game takes a lot of time and dedication to build up your character and items, which can also very easily be lost if you don't take the proper precautions. That being said, it's a great game and I have lots of fun playing it. If you can get in to it and maybe find a few people to play with I think anyone who tries it out will really enjoy it. It's also probably a good idea to read through any stickied topics at the forum and take a look at the wiki.

Here are some links:

Home Page (http://www.havenandhearth.com/portal/)
Forum (http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/)
Wiki (http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/)
World Map (http://algeralith.info/HavenMap2/) (Made by Alg!)

Newbie Guide (http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3196)
Village Protection Guide (http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7116)
Combat System Guide (http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6518)

Ender Custom Client (http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14575)
Arksu Custom Client (http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14662&hilit=Arksu)
Gilbertus Custom Client (http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10840)

Screenshots:


Center of my Village
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Killing a thief!
(https://rpgwoforums.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi52.tinypic.com%2F9rk85x.jpg&hash=231b15ee402ac9ab32b10b2208b2fa0fe91b373a)


Feast!
(https://rpgwoforums.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi54.tinypic.com%2Fnxrzft.jpg&hash=e90abf487ebe56cb38953da5a8658af9d72a003d)


Cave Mine
(https://rpgwoforums.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi55.tinypic.com%2Fpyx5j.jpg&hash=d0ad5514efd03ee92deacf113e4b386408e69cfb)


Raiding a Village
(https://rpgwoforums.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.tinypic.com%2F4qkish.jpg&hash=86f830eae19b841156b81c1b118403df38e636d2)


Screens
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That's all I have for now. Check this game out homies!

Blemout
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Gimpy on March 10, 2011, 01:35:43 pm
LUMOS
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Gimpy on March 10, 2011, 03:36:26 pm
this game reminds me alot of harry potter, is this why you play it draco?
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Kaios on March 10, 2011, 03:51:09 pm
Yep!

Killing a Troll!
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Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Jon The Great on March 10, 2011, 03:54:09 pm
Looks good.
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Gimpy on March 10, 2011, 03:55:07 pm
coming from the guy who likes v3
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Jon The Great on March 10, 2011, 04:31:13 pm
I love v3 being able to reach so many people at one time. Art could be better but if the game takes off then we can hire a real artist to make it look similar or better than above.
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: The Muffin Man on March 10, 2011, 08:04:41 pm
lol perm death
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Miner 49er on March 10, 2011, 10:38:53 pm
lol perm death

It does suck sometimes =[
I died at the start of this server and had to start over...
Kaios was stupid enough to drown while swimming last server near the end heh
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Kaios on March 13, 2011, 02:11:13 pm
World 4 wiped already. Whole new experience system implemented to World 5. Now is a good time to start playing!
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Gimpy on March 13, 2011, 05:18:13 pm
LUMOS!
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Greatest on September 23, 2011, 03:23:52 pm
whats your hs?  I've been playing for a while now, but the only person near me is some weird Russian guy who keeps breaking my fences robbing me...and don't say build palisades, I'm working on it
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Miner 49er on September 23, 2011, 03:26:50 pm
Don't build palisades, build brickwalls
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Greatest on September 23, 2011, 04:42:07 pm
you need metal for that, and I can't find an unclaimed cave, and can't make the hardened leather stuff needed to make a mine hole
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Greatest on September 23, 2011, 04:43:19 pm
why does the forum bleep the word h-a-r-d
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Generic Black Guy on September 23, 2011, 11:33:42 pm
hardened leather is just wax on leather, and boiling iirc, brick walls are fun, but mining all that clay. mines are easy to find, just sneak in and explore until you find an unclaimed part. hell, for defense scout out a thicket and make it yours.
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Greatest on October 14, 2011, 12:44:59 am
I think Mickey broke the HnH server so we'd all play his new V2 world :o
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Kaios on October 27, 2011, 06:33:09 am
Bumping this in case anyone was interested to know that due to some hosting issues the world wiped so World 6 is open now if you were waiting for an even playing field to try the game out.

No new updates however, just a wipe.

Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Pokemon Steve on October 27, 2011, 11:30:21 am
Kaios that game is turtle, and so are you
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Senkei on October 27, 2011, 03:13:39 pm
Kaios that game is turtle, and so are you

This guy is da boss
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Senkei on October 31, 2011, 11:31:10 pm
 ???
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Greatest on October 31, 2011, 11:33:58 pm
just got my brickwall cornerpost started...this is going to take forever(never got 1 last world)
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Generic Black Guy on November 28, 2011, 08:44:07 pm
just got my brickwall cornerpost started...this is going to take forever(never got 1 last world)

greatest, pm me your HS and ill send all my bricks and crap wrought to you to build your bw

kaios, you rule

jord, you calling people and games turtle, when your rpgwo server idea sounds like a clustertiger of barney, teletubbies and dora the explorer. if anyone actually plays your server, it is the end of rpgwo for good.

lol
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Senkei on November 29, 2011, 02:57:31 am
Me Gusta
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Greatest on May 31, 2013, 11:21:59 pm
I'm going to beat Kaios to it, World 7 starts on sunday...
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Kaios on June 01, 2013, 06:10:54 am
Sunday or Monday
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Greatest on June 03, 2013, 01:13:47 am
my scouts have found 7 caves so far...but I have to work in the morning :D
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Kaios on October 30, 2015, 10:04:36 am
Hello again friends, on August 28, 2015 a new 3D version of Haven & Hearth (http://www.havenandhearth.com/portal/) was released.

The game is no longer fully free and has adopted somewhat of a subscription method (approx. $10 monthly depending on your exchange rate, the developers are in Sweden). New accounts are given 48 hours of free time which they can use to test out the game, this game time only ticks down while you are actually in-game. After which, accounts that aren't subscribed or have purchased any time via tokens are considered "free accounts" and receive 7 hours of play time which is refilled weekly every Monday. This time is refilled to 7 hours regardless of whether or not you use it, you cannot acpigulate. You can pay a one time $15 fee to receive access to the old version of Haven & Hearth as well as 14 hours of weekly play time rather than 7.

In any case, more information on that can be found here (http://www.havenandhearth.com/portal/store).

Some screenshots:

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If you are interested in looking at some other screenshots of the game you can find a bunch of them here (http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=39691).

Some of the updates including the most recent since they released that someone might enjoy:

http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=43079 (http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=43079)
http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=43749 (http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=43749)
http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=44664 (http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=44664)
http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=44724 (http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=44724)

If you really enjoyed the previous version of Haven & Hearth I would really recommend trying out this new one. Use the free 48 hours and determine if you think it is worth paying for. Similar to legacy Haven, this new version of the game has its fair share of performance and optimization issues. If you have a decent computer you should be fine but this is just a warning to others that already have trouble running a lot of games which is probably why you play RPGWO anyways.

Hope to see you around the forum  ;)
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Pokemon Steve on October 30, 2015, 11:05:27 am
it looks terrible
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Kaios on October 30, 2015, 11:07:37 am
it looks terrible

Maybe but you said something negative before too so idc about your useless opinion anyways, thx.
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Greatest on October 30, 2015, 03:07:29 pm
it looks terrible
I agree...I like HnH but the new look just seems wrong.
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Kaios on October 30, 2015, 03:14:53 pm
I agree...I like HnH but the new look just seems wrong.

So don't play it, I don't care. I got a few people in to the game when I first posted about it and hopefully that happens again but if not, whatever. I think the graphics have been improved quite significantly, you really do need to actually play the game to see it in full effect.

Also now they are receiving enough income that they have been keeping updates coming twice a week, once a week for some of the bigger ones but it's a very nice pace.

Here are some nice images that were edited by a few different players, they taken using a different camera position so that what you would normally see would be the big black nothing that is the skybox but they have edited their own skies in the background instead.

They look quite interesting.

(https://rpgwoforums.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeCMwIwNh.jpg&hash=e33de84208a8d8553bdd68caeaf5da0488838950)
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Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Greatest on October 31, 2015, 01:13:15 am
I agree...I like HnH but the new look just seems wrong.

So don't play it, I don't care. I got a few people in to the game when I first posted about it and hopefully that happens again but if not, whatever. I think the graphics have been improved quite significantly, you really do need to actually play the game to see it in full effect.
I didn't have any issues with the old graphics, new ones just seem sort of like someone smoked too much weed and decided to try to make funny images...and everyone knows smoking too much weed before doing something leads to bad things.

also that first screenshot in your last post, the way the guy is holding the saw makes it look like he is peeing on the fire ;D
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Gimpy on October 31, 2015, 10:47:47 am
So this game limits the amount you can play?
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Roarion on October 31, 2015, 02:14:32 pm
So this game limits the amount you can play?

Its basically p2p unless you aren't going to play very much. Tried the old HnH a while ago and didn't like it very much. You more or less have to run around discovering things / make different items to level up from what I remember instead of grinding on mobs for X hours or doing quests, dungeons, etc like a traditional MMORPG game. Wasn't really enjoyable for me and these graphics look even worse IMO. I would of preferred the old crap graphics and more fluid gameplay, movement, combat.

I guess HNH just reminds me of V6 right now, where I look at my character crawling along instead of "just moving" like in v2. It drives me crazy how freaking slow you move just let me move fast ok everyone hates moving slow so lets go fast, gotta go fast fast fast, you're too slow v6 why do I gotta go slow and be tormented make me a Bone Gorvor and move fast OK it so freaking boring to crawl along and I wanna quit in the first 5 minutes so increase the run speed to 2x-4x ty.
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Sacrifice on October 31, 2015, 09:22:43 pm
I'll play if you are my friend kaios.
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Greatest on November 01, 2015, 01:20:30 am
I'll play if you are my friend kaios.
sorry I had to smite you for that.
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Mickey Kudlo on November 02, 2015, 11:08:53 am
I haven't played, ever, but I like the graphics, now a days it isn't all about realistic but stylization, I guess, like Don't Starve?

I guess HNH just reminds me of V6 right now, where I look at my character crawling along instead of "just moving" like in v2. It drives me crazy how freaking slow you move just let me move fast ok everyone hates moving slow so lets go fast, gotta go fast fast fast, you're too slow v6 why do I gotta go slow and be tormented make me a Bone Gorvor and move fast OK it so freaking boring to crawl along and I wanna quit in the first 5 minutes so increase the run speed to 2x-4x ty.

Hmm, you sure you aren't suffering from "Admin Regress"? I got sooo used to moving around fast as an admin that I hated being a player, going slow, waiting for Run to hit 200 and speed to be maxed. I added a few more scrolling options that may help. But a newb really shouldn't be able to run that fast... newb.
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Greatest on November 02, 2015, 05:31:52 pm
as a player who always has 10 quickness and is often ob at the beginning of a server, I think I move faster in V1/V2 with double burden at 10 quickness than I ever have in V6...and yes that movement speed(its the animation I think) gets annoying.

@Roar in HnH you can change your movement speed, if you pick anything up or walk into a swamp you go at crawl speed, which is really slow.  walk speed is fine on most terrains, run can be done on some terrains with low stamina costs, and sprint can be used on flat surfaces(paved, mud flats, grasslands).  if you use the default client it always stays on last speed used, which means if you pick something up(which happens a lot) you'll move at that speed after you put it down unless you change your speed manually.  custom clients had options to set a default movement speed and that speed will be used any time possible.
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Kaios on November 04, 2015, 09:30:22 am
So this game limits the amount you can play?
Its basically p2p unless you aren't going to play very much.

This

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Tried the old HnH a while ago and didn't like it very much. You more or less have to run around discovering things / make different items to level up from what I remember instead of grinding on mobs for X hours or doing quests, dungeons, etc like a traditional MMORPG game.


not this though, there isn't even any form of traditional "leveling up"

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more fluid gameplay, movement, combat.

did you even play

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sonic the hedgehog

bro both rpgwo and Haven and Hearth are essentially niche games, they aren't suited for everyone but this thing about speed is just ridiculous, learn2play n00b.
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Roarion on November 05, 2015, 10:24:52 am
So this game limits the amount you can play?
Its basically p2p unless you aren't going to play very much.

This

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Tried the old HnH a while ago and didn't like it very much. You more or less have to run around discovering things / make different items to level up from what I remember instead of grinding on mobs for X hours or doing quests, dungeons, etc like a traditional MMORPG game.


not this though, there isn't even any form of traditional "leveling up"

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more fluid gameplay, movement, combat.

did you even play

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sonic the hedgehog

bro both rpgwo and Haven and Hearth are essentially niche games, they aren't suited for everyone but this thing about speed is just ridiculous, learn2play n00b.

Dood u r a noob. I did play, got stuck in a boat due to some glitch, killed like 300 goats to make a giant dead goat wall.

By leveling up I was more or less talking about how you get points to improve your character, I tried to search to remember what they called the points again you get for discovering things or w/e but ran across some thread on HnH forums about you QQing about leveling land or something... NOOB! lol.  :P

Movement speed is subjective, its more or less the fact that you are running through blank sectors / forests trying to find something to actually do. You would need like 5x the average amount of content in a normal rpgwo world imo to be moving as slow as you do for the first 20-30 lvls.
Title: Re: Haven & Hearth
Post by: Kaios on November 05, 2015, 02:40:35 pm
By leveling up I was more or less talking about how you get points to improve your character, I tried to search to remember what they called the points again you get for discovering things or w/e but ran across some thread on HnH forums about you QQing about leveling land or something... NOOB! lol.  :P

You'll find lots of posts like that around the forum, I'm not shy about voicing my opinion on wolfty mechanics. It's not like the game is perfect so I do what I can in the form of suggestions or whatever to help the devs out. Sometimes other players are in agreement, sometimes they aren't.

99% of the posts that you search are all regarding the new version of the game because many old posts are missing due to an issue when the forum got changed over.

I have over 4k posts on that forum now plus I moderate it as well as communicate with the developers regularly, fairly certain my opinion at least carries some amount of weight around there.