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Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: The Muffin Man on June 02, 2009, 04:30:50 pm
A reason to finally buy a paperweight? I've heard that G4 held an interview that confirmed it will be on on PC as well, so time will tell. Definately will get it on PC if it comes out, I'm sure the date will be 2011 for that and I'll definately be able to fork over cash for it either way by then . Hopefully it's just not near as hardcore as XI.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Rokhan on June 03, 2009, 07:06:00 am
Arent they only on XIII for release date in spring 2010 now?
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: The Muffin Man on June 03, 2009, 07:25:03 am
Iono about 13. 14 is due in 2010 on PS3 and Windows, their website confirmed it last night. So yeeey  No need to buy paperweight, can just buy a new computer.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Mystic on June 03, 2009, 06:15:53 pm
Yes it's confirmed for the PS3 and PC, there's talk about a 360 version but please for the love of god no, since in a few years it'll hold the game back like PS2 did to XI.

Anyway here's all the info I gathered.

1. Comes out in 2010
2. While it takes place in another world, it'll have the same/similar races as the ones from Vana'diel. The characters will also look similar to FFXI player models
3. You can actually solo this time around
4. Possible new playable races
5. Beta release sometime in the future

You can view the site at: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com (http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com)

It's funny, I swear to god the XI's community IQ dropped 50 points when this info got released. Everyone is going paranoid thinking FFXI is going to die, they're not going to play it since they don't want to "start over" (lolwut?), or pissed they can't transfer their XI character to XIV
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: The Muffin Man on June 03, 2009, 07:15:06 pm
The website shows no Tarus, only Elvaan children. The logo LOOKS like it has a Taru in it, but it might just be an Elvaan child.

They better put Tarus in.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Mystic on June 03, 2009, 07:41:23 pm
Hmm, good observation. Could go either way. However I'd expect them to be there since Galka (even though they're tailess), mithra, and hume are in there. I'm more curious about the horned kid, lot of speculation that he's a sign of a new playable race. While it's neat and all if they add anything as a playable race I'd love to see a reptile like race.

Also, job system is confrimed. Going to be interesting to see if they balance out jobs this time.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Devil on June 05, 2009, 07:15:19 pm
This game looks like sex and orgy and amazing.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Mystic on June 06, 2009, 09:21:22 am
I hope to god they add Gunblades since the technology in this one looks advanced enough for them.

Curious how weapons will play one of the most vital roles in the game, guess we'll see. Lot of speculation is you'll learn abilities from weapons/armor similar to FFTA and FFIX.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: The Muffin Man on June 06, 2009, 07:30:29 pm
In before Main/Subjob weapon system that was as horrid as FFXIs class system was. Level like 4 classes just to get 1 class to 75 and sub to 37
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Nick Blaze on June 08, 2009, 10:00:27 pm
FF has sucked since VI, really.  VIII had good ideas that failed, IX was good onyl because it tried to be like the older, VII was horrible, XI was meh, XII was pretty good, etc.  Anyway, nothing gets more than a 6/10 in my book save the SNES games.

Also, another online one makes me sad, as I hate paying for that crap.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Pepin on June 09, 2009, 04:44:00 am
I liked FF7 to FFX. Those were the best imo.

And FYI WoW is for people who don't wanna spend their day just walking to the next town. I played for the PVP. I believe WoW had a good PVP system. It was fun running around on my PVP server just sticking tigerers in the back. It was a fast paced fun MMO. Then again i really didn't give FFXI a chance so who knows.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Rokhan on June 09, 2009, 06:47:12 pm
WoW covers the best aspects of Online Gaming pretty well. Big parties for a objective, tigering around killing wolf or headhunting Hordies/Alliance.

I agree Pepin VII-X was best. I really enjoyed XII though, something different and Tactics/Tactics Advanced were fun to play as well.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Nick Blaze on June 10, 2009, 04:02:32 pm
VII through X were the most shallow games, also some of the easiest, ever invented.  They had character development, but horrible plotlines with clichés everywhere.  VIII was the only one to do love well, but the ending was predictable and sucked.  It had good ideas, such as Drawing, but they were not implemented well.  IX brought the old-school back, but dumbed it and made an average story to go along with it.  X was just one of the worst games ever invented.  Terrible characters and development.  Horrible plotline, save the one interesting idea of being nothing more than a dream.  The sphere board was amazing, though, and the mini games were the biggest pieces of crap ever made for video gaming (though I did enjoy Blitzball).

XII was good.  The best for the PS2.  Its storyline was shallow, the character development slim, but it was a very fun game.  Good sidequests, neat ideas such as Cid being evil, and a unique battle system which was similar to the Materia system in VII, which was also good, but FFXII's Gambit system made the battle much less interactive and basically just had you walk through a game, waiting occassionally for monsters to die in front of you.

Tactics was the best PSX FF, without doubt.  Depth, fun, challenge, sidequests galore, etc.  VII had unique ideas, a great villian (Kekfa), fun sidequests and games, good character development on those who mattered, and surprising depth to those who didn't, as well as Espers, a good battle system, and the like.  IV was also great, with almost no clichés other than the female protagonist.  V was boring, though, and I would not rate it higher than FFVII.  I was also great.

Has anybody played the entertaining but horrible Final Fantasy: Legends games?
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: The Muffin Man on June 10, 2009, 06:12:55 pm
Wait, did you just say an SNES RPG contained a more than average story?



AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Seriously. All of the pre-7 RPGs weren't exactly the most jaw-dropping storylines ever. Knight/random hero comes in - finds out some tigerer is all like I DESTROY WORLD, and for some reason decides he needs to save it even though the only lines he says throughout the entire game is ... and all of that packed into a whopping 20 hours of kickass linear gameplay with nothing to do but go through a mediocre story.

7 and 9 at least had depth to it, and plenty of interesting mini games to give you a break throughout the game.

Yes, I played all of the older games, and yes I did enjoy them, simply because they were.. well... simple and.. whatever. But they were by no means not "shallow".

X was alright, I played Blitzball more than the actual game. XII was interesting enough, but the game seemed to advance too slow and seemed a bit linear compared to other 3d FF games.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Rokhan on June 10, 2009, 07:22:52 pm
Quote from: Nick Blaze
VII through X were the most shallow games, also some of the easiest, ever invented.  They had character development, but horrible plotlines with clichés everywhere.  VIII was the only one to do love well, but the ending was predictable and sucked.  It had good ideas, such as Drawing, but they were not implemented well.  IX brought the old-school back, but dumbed it and made an average story to go along with it.  X was just one of the worst games ever invented.  Terrible characters and development.  Horrible plotline, save the one interesting idea of being nothing more than a dream.  The sphere board was amazing, though, and the mini games were the biggest pieces of crap ever made for video gaming (though I did enjoy Blitzball).

XII was good.  The best for the PS2.  Its storyline was shallow, the character development slim, but it was a very fun game.  Good sidequests, neat ideas such as Cid being evil, and a unique battle system which was similar to the Materia system in VII, which was also good, but FFXII's Gambit system made the battle much less interactive and basically just had you walk through a game, waiting occassionally for monsters to die in front of you.

Tactics was the best PSX FF, without doubt.  Depth, fun, challenge, sidequests galore, etc.  VII had unique ideas, a great villian (Kekfa), fun sidequests and games, good character development on those who mattered, and surprising depth to those who didn't, as well as Espers, a good battle system, and the like.  IV was also great, with almost no clichés other than the female protagonist.  V was boring, though, and I would not rate it higher than FFVII.  I was also great.

Has anybody played the entertaining but horrible Final Fantasy: Legends games?
I beg to differ.

I thought, along with most of the RPG fanatics in the world that VII had a sick storyline. You mixed up VI and VII though. VI had Kefka, Terra and etc.

FF X-2 was the biggest fail imo.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Mystic on June 10, 2009, 08:08:57 pm
Quote from: The Muffin Man
Wait, did you just say an SNES RPG contained a more than average story?



AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Seriously. All of the pre-7 RPGs weren't exactly the most jaw-dropping storylines ever. Knight/random hero comes in - finds out some tigerer is all like I DESTROY WORLD, and for some reason decides he needs to save it even though the only lines he says throughout the entire game is ... and all of that packed into a whopping 20 hours of kickass linear gameplay with nothing to do but go through a mediocre story.

7 and 9 at least had depth to it, and plenty of interesting mini games to give you a break throughout the game.

Yes, I played all of the older games, and yes I did enjoy them, simply because they were.. well... simple and.. whatever. But they were by no means not "shallow".

X was alright, I played Blitzball more than the actual game. XII was interesting enough, but the game seemed to advance too slow and seemed a bit linear compared to other 3d FF games.
I think he has a point in a way, I thought FF6 had one of the best storylines in the FF series. Almost every playable character (At least the ones worth playing) had a backstory of some sorts. Personally after FF6 I think FF kinda went downhill.

FF7 was an overrated piece of wolf, story was bland and dull and I couldn't get past disc 2 due to bordem

FF8 was pretty good, I didn't like the magic system, however the storyline fell apart at the 2nd half of the game. Like how all the playable characters actually knew each other and lived together as kids at Edna's house.

FF9 had the best gameplay, but the plotholes ruined it. To this day I still try to figure out where the hell Necron came from.

FF10 focused way too much on the voice acting which sucked, didn't enjoy it that much.

FF11... not getting into it.

FF12 was great however it felt repitive after awhile, however it still kicked ass.


I just wish SE would go back to the roots of the FF series, I'd so buy that wolf. Give me a FF in a fantasy based world, not a sci fi world. Give me a job system. Give me random encounters. Do all 3 of those well and I'll regain my faith in SE and the FF series. Last SE game I played I enjoyed was TWEWY.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Rokhan on June 10, 2009, 08:12:08 pm
Why's everyone hating on FF games lol.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Mystic on June 10, 2009, 08:15:24 pm
Because the FF series hasn't been the same since Square and Enix merged together.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Devil on June 10, 2009, 08:41:49 pm
Quote from: Mystic
I think he has a point in a way, I thought FF6 had one of the best storylines in the FF series. Almost every playable character (At least the ones worth playing) had a backstory of some sorts. Personally after FF6 I think FF kinda went downhill.

FF7 was an overrated piece of wolf, story was bland and dull and I couldn't get past disc 2 due to bordem

FF8 was pretty good, I didn't like the magic system, however the storyline fell apart at the 2nd half of the game. Like how all the playable characters actually knew each other and lived together as kids at Edna's house.

FF9 had the best gameplay, but the plotholes ruined it. To this day I still try to figure out where the hell Necron came from.

FF10 focused way too much on the voice acting which sucked, didn't enjoy it that much.

FF11... not getting into it.

FF12 was great however it felt repitive after awhile, however it still kicked ass.


I just wish SE would go back to the roots of the FF series, I'd so buy that wolf. Give me a FF in a fantasy based world, not a sci fi world. Give me a job system. Give me random encounters. Do all 3 of those well and I'll regain my faith in SE and the FF series. Last SE game I played I enjoyed was TWEWY.

That makes no sense, from what you have said:

1) You don't even like final fantasy, so get the tiger out of this thread.
2) FF12 doesn't compare because it is way too different(they all are so stop trying.)
3) You dissed all of the games, yet you want them to go back to the roots? You make no sense.

Do I detect bandwagon dogs?
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Mystic on June 10, 2009, 08:50:38 pm
WTF are you smoking? I liked the FF series. I just said FF6 was the peek of the series and after that it just went downhill.

And yes I'd like to see FF go back to more of a "classic" field, not all this technology BS they've been doing. FF13 looks WAY too Sci-Fi, only kind of machines I really care to see are Airships.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Pirate Wings on June 10, 2009, 09:10:56 pm
FFVII was the most memoral one for me.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Rokhan on June 10, 2009, 09:23:17 pm
Quote from: Pirate Wings
FFVII was the most memoral one for me.
Amen.


IX for me cause I logged so many hours and having being the only person I know of that actually played through in under 12 hours and got Excalibur II just for the sake of it.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: The Muffin Man on June 11, 2009, 11:06:58 am
VII and IX were my favorite games by far. I clocked in so many hours on them it was unreal. Hell, I recently bought IX against just to HAVE it again, haven't even gotten back into playing it since I broke my Ps2 on accident.

To each their own, though.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Devil on June 11, 2009, 01:18:12 pm
Quote from: The Muffin Man
VII and IX were my favorite games by far. I clocked in so many hours on them it was unreal. Hell, I recently bought IX against just to HAVE it again, haven't even gotten back into playing it since I broke my Ps2 on accident.

To each their own, though.
Emulator?
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Rokhan on June 11, 2009, 07:00:30 pm
I have 2 copies of IX because I have to mix and match the discs to get them to work
But its technically my 2nd and 3rd copies of the game.

And same with Chrono Cross, loaned to my buddy years ago and forget about it. Bought a second one, replaying now hehe.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: The Muffin Man on June 11, 2009, 07:09:25 pm
I don't like emulators.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Rokhan on June 11, 2009, 07:12:47 pm
I like the VBA one. Others take too much getting used to for intense controls
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: The Muffin Man on June 11, 2009, 09:15:17 pm
VBA and ZSNES are about the only ones I've ever played. They are fun since I don't really wanna spend money on older systems, and save states on some SNES games are a godsend.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Mystic on June 12, 2009, 12:54:03 pm
Quote from: Rokhan
I have 2 copies of IX because I have to mix and match the discs to get them to work
But its technically my 2nd and 3rd copies of the game.

And same with Chrono Cross, loaned to my buddy years ago and forget about it. Bought a second one, replaying now hehe.
I might have to do that soon to. My first FFIX disc is scartched to beat hell. And I'm really dying for some IX ; ;

Anyway, hopefully we get some more info on XIV soon. I really want SE to talk more about weapons since they made a statement about them playing a vital role in gameplay. Current speculation is that you'll learn JAs/JTs/Magic from them similar to FFIX and FFTA.

Also hoping to god they bring back Artifact Armor, sure most of it sucked but it looked pretty awesome in the full set (Except WHM, screw the condom cap. Give me the classic red triangle robe back)
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: The Muffin Man on June 12, 2009, 01:47:13 pm
As long as they don't make leveling horrendously long and somehow get rid of the stupid elitism that XI has, it'd be a good game.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Mystic on June 12, 2009, 11:17:56 pm
Just get rid of the elitisim and I'll be happy.

PROTIP: Camping a mob for up to 3 hours or giving your LS your cellphone number so they can wake you up for a HNM doesn't make you cool
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: The Muffin Man on June 13, 2009, 12:23:10 am
Heh. A lot of people in my WoW guild give out their cell phone numbers to wake them up if they can replace someone in a raid. It's retarded :/

As soon as someone quits they're like OMG CALL THIS PERSON AND THIS PERSON
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Mystic on June 13, 2009, 01:22:03 am
That's even sadder since aren't raids instanced?
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: The Muffin Man on June 13, 2009, 08:15:32 am
There are lockout IDs so if the guild does a run and you don't go, you're forced to PUG if you want to do it, since raid IDs reset once a week. So if the guild does up to right before the boss that drops the item someone needs, they'll call them if they have a cell phone. Even if it's 3 in the morning, and they are happy to be woken up. It's really sad.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Pirate Wings on June 13, 2009, 08:37:59 am
If i'm on i'm on stiff wolf if i'm not and anyone needs me. I probly won't worry about raids in future expansions unless I just happen to be on at the time ones about to happen. Downfall to that is nothing to do once you get max lvl other then rep grinds and pvp.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Rokhan on June 14, 2009, 05:12:00 pm
Its pathetic how much people give up their LIFE for WoW raiding.

Socializing first, my raiding came second.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Devil on June 14, 2009, 06:27:29 pm
Quote from: Rokhan
Its pathetic how much people give up their LIFE for WoW raiding.

Socializing first, my raiding came second.
You can't use the word Social and WoW in the same post/thread/forum.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Rokhan on June 14, 2009, 11:40:15 pm
Quote from: Devil
You can't use the word Social and WoW in the same post/thread/forum.
lololol.

Only possible when making reference to the 2 opposites of WoW and Socializing
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Crack Pipe on June 14, 2009, 11:50:11 pm
FF X-2 Was the best THREE CHICKS RUNNING AROUND!!
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Rokhan on June 15, 2009, 09:27:20 am
Quote from: Crack Pipe
FF X-2 Was the best THREE CHICKS RUNNING AROUND!!
It's OK.

Me and 2 buddies are slowly progressing for a 100% complete file.. It's tedious
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Devil on June 15, 2009, 01:47:49 pm
Quote from: Crack Pipe
FF X-2 Was the best THREE CHICKS RUNNING AROUND!!
The story sucks.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Crack Pipe on June 15, 2009, 04:55:04 pm
what part of three chicks don't you understand?
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: THEAC on June 15, 2009, 06:24:22 pm
Quote from: Crack Pipe
what part of three chicks don't you understand?

Get a real girl, mate.

Anyway, my favorite FF would have to be VI by far, awesome storyline.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Nick Blaze on June 16, 2009, 12:26:28 am
I agree with THEAC.
Also, FFX-2 was amusing, but it was ****-bad horrible.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Rokhan on June 16, 2009, 09:32:02 am
Quote from: Nick Blaze
I agree with THEAC.
Also, FFX-2 was amusing, but it was ****-bad horrible.
Different is what I use to describe as.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Trivium on June 16, 2009, 04:01:59 pm
Duuudes don't bitch about old school gaming.

FF 3,4,5 and 6 were awesome games.
9 and 10 were also pretty damn good
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Mystic on June 16, 2009, 05:11:56 pm
5 Was awesome for how well they implied the job system. But damn I had trouble keeping up with money buying a wolfton of equipment.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Rokhan on June 16, 2009, 05:44:12 pm
I liked Job system of Tactics and Tactics advanced tbh. Covered alot. Tactics I liked more though. TA, had too many missions lol. Never did beat them all.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Crack Pipe on June 17, 2009, 12:28:19 am
ya tactic was good beating the game was hard -.-
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Rokhan on June 17, 2009, 12:51:33 pm
Really liked the diverse classes and if you get ninja on Ramza its basically GG until everyone else gets Ninja's then its like whos ass out hits whos ass?

And all the secret guys, kinda. Well special is better word. Meliadoul was bitch to fight and useful against people you dont care for stealing from. And whats his name, Orlandu I think. The SICK tigering knight mother.
Title: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Nick Blaze on June 17, 2009, 10:05:34 pm
Orlandu makes the game too easy.  Also, Calculators win.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XIV
Post by: Mystic on September 09, 2009, 07:47:01 pm
So with the new info XIV is looking promising. Guild Leaves will be similar to hunts in FF12 from how it looks. Though the class system I want some info on.