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Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: THEAC on November 22, 2005, 08:34:16 pm
I logged on to Steeltide today to find out that Rha was giving away DAMON everyone on Steeltide yesterday is this admin abuse or what?

This will compleatly ruin the value of damon and will corrupt the entire economy of Steeltide.

Should the players that were not on yesterday not get DAMON just for not playing yesterday?

If anyone has any chatlogs or any information on this please post.

Apparently, Rha has cancer which I think is very sad(I am serious here, don't make jokes about this), but still that gives her no right to abuse her admin powers.
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: @@Admin Nash on November 22, 2005, 08:44:22 pm
interesting...
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: chronolink on November 22, 2005, 08:48:12 pm
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Apparently, Rha has cancer which I think is very sad(I am serious here, don't make jokes about this), but still that gives her no right to abuse her admin powers.
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Old news, that was on the last forums and Auron and some other kid wished death on her
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: THEAC on November 22, 2005, 08:54:52 pm
I asked Silk about it and he answeres back saying   "no comment".
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: chronolink on November 22, 2005, 09:01:34 pm
Silk's a stupid n00by twat. You think Rha would tell people in person about a condition she has? No, she would make it public and spam on globals to get attention and sympathy off people

Like I said, she made a post on the old forums about it
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: THEAC on November 22, 2005, 09:17:04 pm
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Silk's a stupid n00by twat. You think Rha would tell people in person about a condition she has? No, she would make it public and spam on globals to get attention and sympathy off people

Like I said, she made a post on the old forums about it
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No, I didn't ask him about that, I asked him about the damon conspiracy.
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Ravyn on November 22, 2005, 09:19:36 pm
Wait, was this some kid making a rumor up about the damon or is there actual proof?
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: THEAC on November 22, 2005, 09:22:43 pm
I globalled this aking if she really did and about 5 people said she did! I just forgot to get the chatlogs. I don't want to ask people again because people get pissed.
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Ken on November 22, 2005, 11:47:39 pm
yes it is true she gave out damon i missed it but still managed to aquire 2 pieces i may have had to rip them off noobs but i still got em  
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Pirate Wings on November 23, 2005, 12:37:44 am
Kewl. Rha is sexy.
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Axeman on November 23, 2005, 09:42:14 am
If you ask me, and if Rha reads this, oh well.

As Chrono previously said, she's supposedly been dying from cancer for year+ now.  I believe she did this on Luny, soon after she took over running it, saying she was going to die in a few months, and it quickly spread to ST, which everyone realized she had @@@ and ran Luny.

I don't believe she has cancer and if she does, she isn't going to die from it, most cancers are treatable if caught early enough, and if she caught it years ago like she said did and hasn't died yet, she isn't going to die.

I don't get what the big fuss is about disease unless you're going to die or become crippled.
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Grinch on November 23, 2005, 11:45:26 am
Sarrow / Gimpy got banned the other day by UT because he didn't believe that Rha gave out damon to everyone.

Then, after perm banning him, perm banned him on Arc.. then is trying to convince Rha to ban him on Luny too.

My god. If these admins don't know what the other admins are doing.. geeze.

He got perm banned on arc for saying Rha has cancer.. apparently she's only getting screened for cancer?

Either way.. the giving out damon is BS.. then UT banning Sarrow for it is BS as well.
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Gimpy on November 23, 2005, 11:49:50 am
IF if wasent gimpy i would be realy upset about this but im not (holds in his anger)
i think ut dident like me proveing him wrong thats why i got ban he called me a lier and a asshole on globals thats tigered up  :ph34r:
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Gimpy on November 23, 2005, 11:50:37 am
O and ya he did ban me from arc lol like the very second after i was ban from st and i gess hes trying luny to
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Gimpy on November 23, 2005, 11:53:25 am
07:58.33 : Sarrow globals:  07:58.25 : The Damon Flail has 81% use left.
07:58.44 : Lord Darkness tells you: Where u get damon from?
07:58.47 : You tell lord darkness : i got two damon know
07:58.55 : You tell lord darkness : yesterdays hand out
07:59.04 : Lord Darkness tells you: hand out?
07:59.09 : You tell lord darkness : mhmm
07:59.25 : Lord Darkness tells you: u mean drop?
07:59.35 : You tell lord darkness : rhas quiting rpg world posibly becouse of cancer and other reasons so every one online got a damonite ore
07:59.47 : You tell lord darkness : =P
07:59.49 : Lord Darkness tells you: WTF
07:59.59 : SERVER says :sarrow stop spread lies
08:00.05 : Lord Darkness globals:  It better be a lie!
08:00.07 : You are very hot.
08:00.09 : Sarrow globals:  ok what ever
08:00.14 : Players in world: worker dude, The D, Vampiress, Dred, Exile, Fizzle, Reign, Lord Darkness, Adracko, iluvatar, Egnimia, The Apocalypse, Sarrow, Albire, Lord Beast
08:00.14 : Players online: 15
08:00.15 : Lord Darkness tells you: if rha does quit im gonna miss her
08:00.15 : Adracko globals:  i have damon as well
08:00.20 : Lord Beast globals:  lol
08:00.21 : Dred globals:  how much exp do you get if you give the armor guy in claye an iron bar?
08:00.26 : Albire globals:  who is server today? and hiya server
08:00.26 : You tell lord darkness : ask any one on
08:00.29 : Only One global message per 60 seconds allowed (40 seconds left)
08:00.31 : SERVER says r you wont be on any rpgwo world except phobos
08:00.34 : Sarrow says: server u know its true
08:00.41 : @@Admin Silk has entered the world.
08:00.43 : Sarrow says: so im lieng now?
08:00.49 : SERVER says :im UT
08:00.53 : Sarrow says: ASK RHA
08:00.54 : Sarrow says: jesus
08:00.56 : Lord Darkness tells you: What time did u get damon then?
08:01.06 : Sarrow says: she saoid she has cancer so she gave every one onlibne damonite ore
08:01.07 : The Apocalypse globals:  only cuz rha gave out damon as gifts lastnite that i was 10 minutes late gettin on to get mine
08:01.11 : Sarrow says: im not makeing this !@#$ up jesus
08:01.16 : Adracko globals:  silk when is auction
08:01.19 : Sarrow says: ugh i hate when people call me a lier
08:01.22 : SERVER says :yep you are sarrow
08:01.25 : Kujo has entered the world.
08:01.26 : Albire globals:  i knew it when you said the only phobos thing, your the only one THAT mean lol
08:01.33 : Sarrow globals:  fizzle dident rha give out damonite yesterday
08:01.40 : @@Admin Silk globals:  maybe tomorrow -- i have to check schedule
08:01.44 : Players in world: worker dude, The D, Vampiress, Dred, Exile, Fizzle, Reign, Lord Darkness, Adracko, iluvatar, Egnimia, The Apocalypse, @@Admin Silk, Sarrow, Albire, Lord Beast, Kujo
08:01.44 : Players online: 17
08:01.53 : Sarrow says: ask the ghost who walks or samson
08:01.59 : Sarrow says: or any one els who was on yesterday ut
08:02.14 : Fizzle globals:  No, I missed the damonite handout yesterday
08:02.18 : Adracko globals:  09:00.23 : The Damon CrossBow has 100% use left.
08:02.20 : Egnimia has left the world.
08:02.22 : Sarrow says: excatly
08:02.23 : Lord Darkness globals:  Buying Damon, 1.7millish
08:02.24 : Sarrow says: err
08:02.33 : SERVER says :im gonna check logs and if your lying  enjoy phobos
08:02.43 : Lord Darkness tells you: nope
08:02.45 : Lord Darkness tells you: oops
08:02.47 : Sarrow globals:  good check loogs lol like 30 people got damon
08:02.52 : The Apocalypse globals:  she handed out alot of it last nite UT
08:03.02 : Sarrow says: TY err
08:03.02 : Albire globals:  lieing about getting damon? no ppl got damon, lots of it
08:03.06 : The Damon Flail has 81% use left.
08:03.17 : Fizzle globals:  people were selling damon on /g for 100k to 250k
08:03.17 : Dred globals:  does anyone know how much exp you get for giving an iron bar to the armor guy in claye?
08:03.26 : Only One global message per 60 seconds allowed (21 seconds left)
08:03.54 : Lord Beast globals:  man I want 1, lol, been playing for over 4 years and still havn't found 1  >:(
08:04.08 : Sarrow globals:  ya see she said she said a bunch of stuff yesterday and one of um was that she had cancer and then she gave us all one damonite ore
08:04.19 : You tell lord beast : i got my first =P
08:04.20 : Fizzle globals:  even on noob people got damon
08:04.28 : You are very hot.
08:04.31 : @@Admin Silk has left the world.
08:04.54 : Silk has entered the world.
08:05.23 : Lord Beast tells you: kool, but still sux 4 me  >;P
08:05.25 : Sarrow globals:  found it yet ut
08:05.34 : You tell lord beast : i got one i dont use..
08:05.39 : You tell lord beast : >=D
08:05.49 : Lord Beast globals:  man that sux I was off and on all day yesterday and I missed it
08:05.50 : One of your runes has been destroyed: Aon Rune
08:06.04 : Only One global message per 60 seconds allowed (21 seconds left)
08:06.07 : You ready Hessite Wand
08:06.07 : The Hessite Wand has 79% use left.
08:06.09 : You ready Magnetite Wand
08:06.09 : The Magnetite Wand has 80% use left.
08:06.10 : Silk has left the world.
08:06.11 : Your MAGIC QUICKNESS bonus has expired
08:06.11 : Your MAGIC INTELLIGENCE bonus has expired
08:06.11 : Your MAGIC WISDOM bonus has expired
08:06.12 : @@Admin Silk has entered the world.
08:06.18 : Lord Beast tells you: u could let yur old buddy Beast hav  >;)
08:06.19 : Your MAGIC STRENGTH bonus has expired
08:06.31 : One of your runes has been destroyed: Mro Rune
08:06.49 : You tell lord beast : i can consider letting u use it =P
08:07.14 : Lord Beast tells you: lol, they're resmeltable rite?
08:07.27 : You tell lord beast : mhmm
08:07.33 : Lord Beast tells you: kool
08:07.42 : You tell lord darkness : can i get a sith?
08:07.48 : Lord Darkness tells you: got none
08:07.51 : Welcome to my shop! How can I help you?
08:07.58 : You tell lord darkness : lies all lies!
08:08.00 : Welcome to my shop! How can I help you?
08:08.02 : Welcome to my shop! How can I help you?
08:08.04 : Welcome to my shop! How can I help you?
08:08.06 : Welcome to my shop! How can I help you?
08:08.06 : Lord Darkness tells you: tehy are all in auction
08:08.10 : Welcome to my shop! How can I help you?
08:08.12 : Welcome to my shop! How can I help you?
08:08.15 : Welcome to my shop! How can I help you?
08:08.19 : Xhakira has entered the world.
08:08.33 : You tell lord darkness : how much u buying damonite for?
08:08.34 : You are very hot.
08:08.43 : The Small Sign reads : Auction House
08:08.48 : Killing tames in the Auction House will result in a ban! Please sit silently during the auction and speak only when bidding.
08:08.48 : Killing tames in the Auction House will result in a ban! Please sit silently during the auction and speak only when bidding.
08:08.49 : Killing tames in the Auction House will result in a ban! Please sit silently during the auction and speak only when bidding.
08:08.54 : Use item failed. Use not defined.
08:08.59 : That object is un-movable.
08:09.04 : Use item failed. Use not defined.
08:09.13 : Use item failed. Use not defined.
08:09.14 : Use item failed. Use not defined.
08:09.20 : Killing tames in the Auction House will result in a ban! Please sit silently during the auction and speak only when bidding.
08:09.21 : Killing tames in the Auction House will result in a ban! Please sit silently during the auction and speak only when bidding.
08:09.21 : Killing tames in the Auction House will result in a ban! Please sit silently during the auction and speak only when bidding.
08:09.34 : You tell lord darkness : ?
08:09.45 : Reign has left the world.
08:09.45 : Exile has left the world.
08:09.48 : Reign has entered the world.
08:10.07 : worker dude has left the world.
08:11.11 : Builder Ellis has entered the world.
08:11.30 : Albire has left the world.
08:11.32 : shadarch has entered the world.
08:11.34 : FLAIL : Normal = 541 : Base = ( STR + DEX ) / 3 : 58384 XP til next raise
08:11.39 : Kujo has left the world.
08:11.41 : Adracko has left the world.
08:11.43 : shadarch has left the world.
08:11.45 : Albire has entered the world.
08:11.47 : iluvatar has left the world.
08:11.50 : Lord Darkness globals:  16:11.47 : The Damon CrossBow has 100% use left.
08:12.02 : You tell lord darkness : u copypasted that =P
08:12.07 : Lord Darkness tells you: no i didnt
08:12.09 : Lord Darkness tells you: coem to
08:12.15 : Builder Ellis has left the world.
08:12.17 : Smither ShadowEW has entered the world.
08:12.17 : You tell lord darkness : u dont even have xbow =P
08:12.18 : Lord Darkness tells you: 3,4 542 706
08:12.25 : Fizzle globals:  08:12.02 : The Damon Wand has 25% use left.
08:12.27 : Aidean MacAnne has entered the world.
08:12.33 : You have entered a Normal zone.
08:12.40 : other worker has entered the world.
08:12.41 : You are very hot.
08:12.51 : Lord Darkness globals:  16:12.39 : The Damon Wand has 79% use left.16:12.43 : The Damon CrossBow has 100% use left.
08:13.13 : @@@Admin UT globals:  guess jan ill wipe then
08:13.15 : Lord Darkness tells you: Damon Xbow owns
08:13.23 : @@@Admin UT globals:  maybe jan 1st
08:13.24 : Lord Beast globals:  guess so
08:13.25 : Dred globals:  what? why?
08:13.27 : Sarrow globals:  rha said theres going to be no wipe
08:13.36 : @@@Admin UT globals:  i run ST not her
08:13.51 : Lord Darkness globals:  Awww UT  its my 2nd ever damon
08:13.52 : The Apocalypse globals:  sarrow u know that ST gets wiped every year   lol
08:14.07 : Lord Darkness tells you: im gonna go get More Qsiths
08:14.11 : Only One global message per 60 seconds allowed (16 seconds left)
08:14.12 : Albire globals:  can we all be admins then? just for the last day?
08:14.13 : Lord Darkness tells you: ...after i resmith my damon
08:14.15 : @@@Admin UT globals:  there again mayb just turn ST off
08:14.23 : You tell lord darkness : where are u lol cant find u
08:14.25 : Only One global message per 60 seconds allowed (2 seconds left)
08:14.28 : Sarrow globals:   not every year only when needed and go ahead im looking forward to a wipe
08:14.33 : Pickup item failed. Item is owned by Lord Darkness
08:14.35 : You fail to asses Mongrim Killa
08:14.40 : Pickup item failed. Item is owned by Lord Darkness
08:14.49 : Use item failed. Use not defined.
08:14.50 : Use item failed. Use not defined.
08:14.50 : Lord Darkness says: hehe
08:14.56 : Sarrow says: i have two also
08:14.59 : Sarrow says: but no need for 2
08:15.02 : Lord Darkness says: lol
08:15.04 : Lord Darkness says: I only need 1
08:15.09 : Lord Darkness says: The otehrs for my friend
08:15.14 : Use item failed. Use not defined.
08:15.14 : Lord Darkness says: i need an Axe for him
08:15.20 : Sarrow says: how much u buying
08:15.20 : Sarrow says: ?
08:15.27 : Lord Darkness says: i only needed 1 more
08:15.30 : Albire globals:  UT come on, ST is like my home, you cant turn it off, come on, its just a little damon, i know a few ways for it to fix its self with out collecting it even
08:15.33 : Sarrow says: how much u buying for
08:15.42 : @@@Admin UT globals:  and rha is leaving cause she fedup of asshole like sarrow spreading !@#$ about that not true
08:15.44 : Lord Darkness says: oh ive spent all my money now
08:15.51 : Sarrow globals:  ut your going to wipe over some items why not do item wipe?
08:16.10 : Fizzle globals:  That makes total sense. an @@@ makes a mistake and the player base is punished.
08:16.18 : Only One global message per 60 seconds allowed (33 seconds left)
08:16.24 : Only One global message per 60 seconds allowed (27 seconds left)
08:16.26 : Sarrow says: omfg
08:16.28 : Lord Darkness says: now where to Resmith it...
08:16.29 : Sarrow says: thats !@#$ed up
08:16.32 : Lord Darkness says: what?
08:16.34 : Only One global message per 60 seconds allowed (17 seconds left)
08:16.35 : Dred globals:  lets all stop argueing before we get wiped tomarrow
08:16.45 : Sarrow says: u can use my houae if your bs is high enough for regular coal
08:16.46 : You are very hot.
08:16.46 : Only One global message per 60 seconds allowed (5 seconds left)
08:16.48 : Only One global message per 60 seconds allowed (3 seconds left)
08:16.50 : Only One global message per 60 seconds allowed (1 seconds left)
08:16.50 : @@@Admin UT globals:  i dont really care about ST no more you lot have proved your not worth me speading time here
08:16.52 : Sarrow globals:  LMFAO ever thing i !@#$ing said was true jesus ut check loggs u got all thes people telling u its true yet u call me an asshole?
08:17.01 : Lord Darkness globals:  Indeed lets do What Dred said. Every Calm down
08:17.07 : Lord Beast globals:  or b4 he gets pissed and starts handing out perma bans
08:17.10 : @@@Admin UT globals:  i was AT rha house in october
08:17.26 : Lord Darkness says: i can get Just under 450 BS
08:17.34 : Sarrow says: i can ge around 500
08:17.38 : Smither ShadowEW has left the world.
08:17.39 : Sarrow says: u can do it at my house if u need to
08:17.40 : Lord Darkness says: with Dex and bs pots
08:17.41 : Archer ShadowEW has entered the world.
08:17.41 : Lord Darkness says: brb
08:17.46 : Archer ShadowEW has left the world.
08:17.48 : Chef Ellis has entered the world.
08:17.52 : Chef Ellis has left the world.
08:17.54 : Elite Magi Ellis has entered the world.
08:18.02 : Sarrow globals:  dont call people an asshole for no reason ut thats kinda !@#$ed up
08:18.08 : @@Admin Silk globals:  drop it
08:18.17 : @@Admin Silk tells you: please
08:18.24 : Dred globals:  sarrow, you cant beat UT, she runs you on this game, so just chill out, and let it go
08:18.30 : You tell @@Admin Silk : he has no right calling me an asshole
08:18.40 : Lord Darkness globals:  UT is a HE
08:18.41 : Lord Beast globals:  UT is a dude
08:18.47 : @@Admin Silk tells you: he calls everybody that at least once -- get over it =P
08:18.48 : The Apocalypse globals:  UT is a HE
08:18.58 : You tell @@Admin Silk : but he also called me a lier
08:19.06 : You tell @@Admin Silk : like 30 people got damon yes im a lier?
08:19.08 : SERVER says :your actign like one sarrow
08:19.17 : Sarrow says: becouse U !@#$ING CALLED ME A LIER
08:19.23 : Sarrow says: jesus !@#$ing crist check loggs
08:19.25 : Dred globals:  i know, i didnt mean to put the S there, he*
08:19.26 : SERVER says :i said your lying about the cancer
08:19.33 : Sarrow says: your the asshole u called me and lier and ahole becouse i rpvoed u wrong
08:19.33 : Sarrow says: ?
08:19.38 : SERVER says :by
08:19.40 : Sarrow says: SHE DID !@#$ING SAY IT
08:19.43 : Sarrow says: CHECK LOGGS
08:19.45 : Sarrow says: CHECK LOGGS
08:19.45 : Sarrow says: CHECK LOGGS
08:19.45 : SPAM WARNING! Stop spamming!
08:19.45 : Sarrow says: CHECK LOGGS
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Grinch on November 23, 2005, 12:30:31 pm
Wow.
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Grinch on November 23, 2005, 12:33:31 pm
He never made it apparent that he was talking about you lying about the cancer..

Everyone is talking about damon.. and he keeps randomly saying LIAR.. about something totally different.

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Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Axeman on November 23, 2005, 02:27:10 pm
Just like I said...Rha decided to make up a fake excuse.
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: chronolink on November 23, 2005, 06:29:36 pm
I concuur, Rha lied about the cancer, it was all some odd Admin conspiricacy. Or UT refuses to believe it or his minds messed up, who knows?
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: StormyNight on November 23, 2005, 06:42:22 pm
Hey look....


08:14.15 : @@@Admin UT globals: there again mayb just turn ST off
08:16.50 : @@@Admin UT globals: i dont really care about ST no more you lot have proved your not worth me speading time here


He's qutting already

www.stormynight.net/rpgwo/ut.html

Who called it biatch?
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: chronolink on November 23, 2005, 06:54:29 pm
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Who called it biatch?
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ah...... You?
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Jeroy on November 23, 2005, 08:51:49 pm
I think we all know, and knew a long time ago that Steeltide has been run to the ground, and theres pretty much nothing we can do about it. This shyt right here just about puts me into retirement, unless sumthin changes about all fo Rpgwo. If not, im done
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Pirate Wings on November 23, 2005, 10:31:59 pm
-Lay off Rha and respect her privacey whether what happened or not happened we can acknowledge that and move on and we've all got our own views. (I know y'all gonna rat out on me now for saying something like that but i've given up holding a grudge even if she hasn't.)

-UT acts like a child at times but when he's in a good mood it's good. Actualy he can be quite pleasant at times but I wont be disagreing in saying that he's done some bad calls in the past but added lots of good stuff in the game and is actualy can be quite funny at times.

-ST is going down and the only thing I regret is playing there for 5 months

With this in mind I'm going to see what happens when I say Rha didn't give out damon on ST.

Just trying to write the posatives here don't hold it against me too much heh.
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Jeroy on November 24, 2005, 01:31:14 pm
I have nothing Against Rha, But truthfully she did give out Damon, whether it was really her or not, or someone who somehow got control of her account, it happened. One of my close friends on ST, has 3 of these damons, one she recived from her, and others that someone else recieved from Rha, and gave to her.
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Rokhan on November 24, 2005, 06:46:24 pm
Wow, this shows how wolfty RPGWO has gotten. Corrupt admins, lying admins, bullwolf admins all in one. Sarrow shouldn't have been banned. But seeing as UT is a monkey he decided to ban him. Rha was at Ut's house? Hmm proves to some point she prolly got admin by prostituting herself, sichk
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Grinch on November 24, 2005, 07:19:15 pm
Yea, for a little over a month I believe..
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Gimpy on November 24, 2005, 10:24:59 pm
The point is ut is messed up in the head and realy dosent matter if he cares about st or not no about realy likes him if he dosent like st then he should simple give it back to mick..
not bad players for telling the truth its all in the loggs
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Jeroy on November 25, 2005, 07:37:49 pm
Hmm, well we all know UT, he can be a bit how can you say....... monkeyheaded, but it gets the Job done. Im not saying hes right for banning you im just saying UT, is going to be UT, whether anyone likes it or not, just the way things go around here.  =\
Title: Steeltide Unfairness
Post by: Pirate Wings on November 25, 2005, 10:21:11 pm
UT called all of arc ugly and is stalling on updates. Thats my daily bad thoughts of UT i'm sure tomorrow I wouldn't have to think too hard to find something that he stuffed up. I always thought Sarrow was a little ass anyways but always hate seeing a fellow player being the victim of UT's stupidity so I vote 1 against Sarrow's ban.