Law For Admins

[Zoex]

This is based off of my personal observations of the game over these past years, and may seem a bit extreme to some of you.

As I have said before, I come from UT World, basically a breeding ground for admin coruption. Where the players are there for little more than admin abuse.

These are rules that I would enforce on  the few admins I would have, because no one should be above the rules, and that is where I think alot of this stupid wolf stems from. Every admin on any server represents the game as a whole in my eyes.

Keep in mind that I think being an admin is a responsibility, not a promotion.


1. Admins may not have their own players.

This rule gets rid of the petty wolf, like item spawning, player warping and such.


2. Admins use Ghost accounts.

This will keep them hidden from the player base, to aid in the next rules enforcement.


3. Admins do not come into contact with players outside of buisness.

This means no admins sitting around chatting with players over globals or tells. This avoids any stupid fights. And keeps the admins focused on their work. This exludes things like events, perks activations, and such. A player can send mail over the game to ask questions to which the admin may respond in a formal manner.


4. You are here for the players.

An admin must promote the worlds growth. An admin is not some player that has super powers and can talk down to everyone he wants. An admin serves the players and the world, that means no picking and chosing who get their perks activated first or waiting weeks to turn them on. Or ignoring players mail and telling them leave if they do not like how things are.
Yes, there will be those who are never happy with how things are ran, that does not mean you ban them for having a different opinion than yourself. Which leads to my next rule.


5. An admin has no opinon.

None, an admin is not involved in the same affairs as players. They look at everyone the same and should not care either way unless a player is breaking a rule.


These put an admin both above a player in status but below at the same time. They lack the free will of a player but gain much respect among the players for their dedication to providing a fair playing enviroment. Most people would be unwilling to be an admin under these rules. This weeds out the trash among people so only the people that truly want to help the game are left.

Feel free to post reasonable responses.

[Ruchmathar]

Laws are only needed for people that have no common sense, morals/principles or self restraint. Giving such people any kind of power is a bad idea anyways.

[Zoex]

I can see where you are coming from on that, this would serve two purposes.

To remind an admin what they are an admin for.

And to give the player the feeling that this is a fair world, and everyone answers to somone.

[King Dravien]

You also have to understand though, its too late for all this, the players have become too needy and are use to admin help, even noobs ask instantly for an admin to help them play, If you'd have given these to mickey in 2000 it would've been more useful

Drav,

[Zoex]

Things like that would be established over time, a notice in the MOD when they first enter the world would help to.

They would eventually get the message when no one came to their plea.

[King Dravien]

MOTD* And alot of the admins are on players MSNs too as friends, so this would either become outballanced, where some people could get admin help and not others, Thus becoming Phobos, Wanna help RPGwo? Pay Mickey to delete it

If you'd like to talk in better and faster detail , PM me your MSN

[Zoex]

My admin count would be a grand total of 2, me and Metrosh.

If Met got outa line I could burn his house down in real life, and I would expect him to do the same for me.

I know people would chat over MSN and such, that does not mean somone is cheating. No chat in game would keep any arguments about in game stuff low, and an admin having no opinion about in game events would keep things from going beyond normal small talk.

[Pirate Wings]

Just take a look at a professional rpg lets say runescape for instance and have a look at rpgwo, if the admins acted professionally and had a standard set of guide lines to follow then there wouldn't be admin corruption. This is only an amaturish type game anyways and the admin type follow that trait too. When I can be bothered i'll type some up maybe.

[Dan]

you can't compare it to runescape because they get paid to do what they do.. I'm sure if someone was hired here to be admin and was paid for it I don't think there would be a problem. But to compare rpgwo admins to admins in a game where they are paid to do there job just doesn't work.. with a set of guidelines or not.

[Axeman]

Zoex, one word, and that's no.

Saying admins can't talk with other players is just plain stupidity.  As Ruch said, that would work only for people who don't care to be admin and only want it for the power to talk down to others.  As Daegan was attempting to do with his server, all Mick needs to do is do a screening process for admins.  He needs to find admins that actually care about the GAME and not the POWER.  Admins are there to help players, it's part of their job, however not ALL admins.  That's basically what there are three levels of @'s for.

@-Moderate chat, help players, etc.
@@-Run events, help players, quests, etc.
@@@-Over look the other admins, help players, quests, general rules and such for the server(s)

Now, you look at any RPGWO server aside from Oceanic(because I know this doesn't apply to them, and the fact they have 5 people playing really can't count it as a server) and you tell me how many @'s there are?  I know of absolutely none.  Shadow is all @@@ I believe, one @@ maybe?  Nulona has one @@, probably deserving @@@ for the control he already has over the server, but would get carried away with it and too greedy.  Arcanium/Empty World well...that's that, I'm sure they have a few @@'s, a few @@@'s and one @ I think.  

Most of the people, yes Jon, that includes you mostly, have gotten carried away.  People who are admin/getting admin expect to be given full power, and that's the way most people see it-all or nothing.  People are being put at @@ or @@@ for their first time being admin, @ is being bypassed and so is @@ on Shadow atleast it seems.  

Mickey needs to do screening processes for admins, and then TEST THEIR ABILITIES on @, then let them be at @@.  People have forgotten that being a @ is a privilege, and almost always meant a promotion, now people just expect that promotion automatically.

[Zoex]

I think Wings got what I was trying to say. Yeah, they do get paid, it is their motivation not to tiger up. My motivation would be to run a good server.

An admin does not need to have small talk with the players, it just leads to more trouble.

[T d eternal]

well its a nice idea yet.. admin interaction is part of the game - it allows for input through ideas to help the game grow. and i agree with axeman really. you dont see any @'s really.

[Daegan]

Admin interaction has ALWAYS been there, Admins used to run around and cause havoc on the server just to keep it fun, (Stormy running around as the king of the cows, UT as The Grayvyn Lord) if you removed that many friendships would have never happened, personally I don't think Stormy and I would have met if he hadn't decided to put a quest over my house.

You seek to treat admins in this game as if they have no opinions, the admins [should] be here to help the game progress and help it move along for the betterment of the game, that doesn't mean remove their interaction. Ever sit on the outside of something and look in?

While rules and regulations for admins is a good idea, without a willing Server Admin to enforce it none of them will be of any use. Like axeman said the admisn i picked for Liberitas were screened and would have been watched closely for any cheating, removal of them would have happened if they were caught.

Unfortunately not every Server Admin/Senior Admin is willing to sack admins just because they mis behaved a little, or even give a warning about it. More often then not it's overlooked as harmless child's play, which is utter bullwolf.

My pennies^

[Jon The Great]

Admins need to be paid nuff said to get stuff done. The game should be open sourced and really let anyone run a server.

[Dark Elf]

admins suck.   all of em.  they think they are cool cuz of shiney @'s.   jerks.

[Axeman]

Including you Jaster...just like you muzzled me for absolutely no reason on Shadow last night?  Yea..good job proving you're not a jerk and you're not happy to have all your '@'s'

[Pokemon Steve]

Laws are only needed for people that have no common sense, morals/principles or self restraint. Giving such people any kind of power is a bad idea anyways.

(Coming from a wolfty admin)

[Dark Elf]

i said admins were jerks?      i dont know where u read otherwise axe....get ur eyes checked..

[Ruchmathar]

(Coming from a wolfty admin)

This coming from your kind of lowlife spig makes it a compliment. If you degenerates don't like how I run things as admin I am doing it right.

[chronolink]

This coming from your kind of lowlife spig makes it a compliment. If you degenerates don't like how I run things as admin I am doing it right.

Then isn't it best to just say "I do my job right" then put your hands over your ears shouting?